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Early 1895 carbines had a barrel band. So was it to copy Winchester, or is there a good engineering reason for it? Dunno.
“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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I would say it was more for sales. Different styles for different folks. Carbines appeal to the western folk...carbine buttplate, barrel bands, short barrels, lever actions, horses, saddles and scabbards. Not that you have to live out west to like that style.
Savage...never say "never".
Rick...
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Winchester and Marlin sure put a lot of barrel bands on their carbines. However, I thought in the big rifle world out there, barrel bands diminished accuracy.
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That was probably not common knowledge at that time. Most shots were off hand with open sights and less accurate ammo than we currently have available. You killed it or you didn't.
Savage...never say "never".
Rick...
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Your right Rick - and they weren't selling '92, '93, '94, '95 and '99 (I'm mixing Marlin, Winchester and Savage) carbines as match rifles.
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I remember "sighting in" with the old timers I used to tag along with in my youth even before I was old enough to hunt. Somebody would take a jackknife and put a mark on a tree and everybody would step back a reasonable shooting distance (30-40 yards ish) for the open sighted Winchesters, Marlins, Remingtons, Savages, etc., etc. that they all carried and shoot at the mark off hand.
If you hit the tree, you were "sighted in".
What we know today as "minute of deer" accuracy...was good enough.
"You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass"
~Admiral Yamamoto~
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. ~Thomas Jefferson~
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That guy must have been the original hoarder to keep that box.
Mike No kidding!
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"Box shows shipped from Montgomery Wards, Denver, CO to Sulfur Springs, Wyoming. The selling dealer is in Montana."
Pulled the plate and found a paper with the owners name and location. I could only read "...Sulphur Sp... on the box for a ship to but it actually was shipped to:
Verne E. Atkins, White Suphur Springs, Montanana.
"Verne was born April 21st, 1907. September 12th, 1988 Verne Atkins passed away in White Sulphur Springs, Montana at the age of 81." (Google)
Savage...never say "never".
Rick...
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Bought the rifle at the age of 33 and owned it 48 years by my calculation.
Wish that rifle could talk....
"You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass"
~Admiral Yamamoto~
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. ~Thomas Jefferson~
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It is not the only 300 H in the box I was looking at one in the box in 300 just lately green label box also a 303 H prebarrel band in the box with the early orange label!!!
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