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My lil Ranger went some where around 200K or so when I sold it. It took all of 1 clutch, a set of pads and rotors, and an exhaust pipe/muffler. A handfull of oil filters and an air filter or two. Don't recall ever putting a battery in it.

Other than that I abused the chit out of it and it always ran great. See lots of the lil things used for delivery running 5ook+.

My current F250 runs great at 150K and has needed little except brakes. I hate Ford brakes. I about bought a Tundra but got cheap. The Tundra is a great truck.

It is beyond ridiculous to compare a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel to a Tacoma. Not even in the same ballpark with regards to anything.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
BUY AMERICAN! The purchase that keeps supporting the American economy, $3500 here and $1700 there.

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Toyotas are cute

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Originally Posted by Raeford
I hate to tell you this, but anybody can own a chunk of Toyota. It's ticker symbol[US] is TM.
Even you can get in on the profits. wink


The stock market is an evil place where Jews rob the poor Gentiles.


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Originally Posted by walt501
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Walt - do you work for Ford?


I've never worked for any automaker, supplier or dealer. Nothing...nada, unless you want to include that summer job I had during college driving the parts truck for Napa.


So, just an advocate for designed obsolescence and rewarding mediocrity?


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Originally Posted by walt501
Yes, you're a [bleep] traitor. Is that simple enough for you?


And you're a patriot for driving that chit made by the commie's in the UAW which is financing the destruction of this country with union dues?

Got it.

BTW,,,, was it Toyota's doing that bankrupted the auto industry which MY tax dollars bailed out?


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Apparently all ball joints for all vehicles should be the same regardless of purpose.




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Here's my US made Tacoma:
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and my US made Ford:
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Now lets get back to the shaming of Toyota owners from guys with Mexican made vehicles....


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Originally Posted by Raeford
I hate to tell you this, but anybody can own a chunk of Toyota. It's ticker symbol[US] is TM.
Even you can get in on the profits. wink


Let's take a closer look at who is getting in on those profits, shall we?

First, that's not Toyota stock that trades on the NYSE, those are Toyota ADR's.

ADR's - Explained

Why is the distinction important? Since ADR's aren't really shares in the company, that exempts U.S. regulators from getting a look at the books of the company. How convenient for Toyota, they look like they trade here in the U.S., but we really don't get a look at the financials, where we'd find all the funding from the Japanese government.

Next, let's look at where those profits go. Let's compare Toyota to let's say....Ford.

First up, who are the major institutional shareholders in Ford?

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Do you see that? Millions and millions of dollars are riding on Ford doing well. Those shares, either directly or through your retirement plans and mutual funds are a vote of confidence in not only Ford but the future - your future, my future, the future of the United States of America as a global powerhouse.

Now, let's take a look at Toyota ADR ownership -

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Not even a fraction of 1% of Toyota ADR's are funding the financial dreams of Americans - while 58% of Ford's outstanding shares are doing exactly that.

So, where do Toyota profits go? Japan! Where do Ford profits go? To fund the financial future of you, your neighbors, your kids education and on and on. That's just one of the reasons why if you buy a Toyota and come crowing about it here - you're a Toyota traitor.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Apparently all ball joints for all vehicles should be the same regardless of purpose.


Travis


Correct.

Applied upsizing will compromise the vehicle in all manner.


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Walt, man, you've got to quit hitting the sauce so early.

My understanding of engineering is pretty good. An engineer designs something so it'll work.

If something breaks, it's not because the engine is too heavy, it's because the thing wasn't designed or built right.

Of course, I also just scrapped a Chevy S-10 at 130,000 miles with a bad #6 cylinder. I suppose that's because it has 6 cylinders and my Taco only had 4?

And my Taco went 380,000 miles in Idaho. We get a little cold and snow once in a while.

Toyota traitors? Last time I checked, offering fair value for money is more honorable than making excuses while designing, building and selling sub-standard junk for full price.


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How the hell did we go from talking about trucks to discussing bailouts, stock shares, investments, engineering, patriotism and bangin' cougars?

Oh, yeah, we're on the 'Fire. laugh

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Originally Posted by FieldGrade
You've never put a battery in that Chevy?


I'm sure I did.


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Checked out a long bed Tacoma today. Found out they are making those like Chevrolets, in Mexico. Guess I'll go back to a new Tundra made in San Antonio. Was kind of excited about a Taco, but I just can't like the short beds, and am not buying Mexican.

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I just put a battery in my Taco. POS.


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Go look at what 10 year old Tacoma's and Ranger's or S10's are selling for, Craigs list, NADA used values or anywhere else.


Then tell us again who makes the better vehicle.

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10 ain't no thang. That Taco i posted is nearly 20.


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Nice to see yet another thread completely derailed from its original direction.

My 2014 4Runner has the new non-canister oil filter that's NOT reachable from the fenderwell. My '97 Tacoma (4cyl) would be, but it's just as easy to crawl underneath so I do. I hate to think how many times that skid plate will have to come off, but it'll be well in excess of 44 times. I made myself feel better by purchasing a small cordless Milwaukee impact wrench, so I'll just tackle oil changes with the right frame of mind and pretend I enjoy it.

My work truck is an '08 Ram2500HD which is basically a one ton. It's got 101K on the clock so far and most of those have been very tough miles...............think logging crummy type miles. I had the ball joints replaced about 15K ago, but frankly I wouldn't complain if they needed changing every couple years for the way they're treated. I've learned to respect Dodge trucks after driving this truck so hard. Same goes for Toyot Opencountry M/Ts. wink


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I just want to know where you guys are finding these vehicles that go 100's of thousands of miles with no major repairs required. Off the top of my head I've owned:

3 toyotas
1 mazda
2 mercedes
1 bmw
1 dodge
1 jeep

Somewhere between 100-140k I was looking at a $2-4k repair bill.

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4 rnr went nearly 200k

93 F250 went 218k

01 Sienna is at 211k

Taco is at 189K

routine maint is all.


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