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If you're hiding something they'll find it. If you're not hiding anything it'll waste your time. Lose / Lose However, if you refuse, they may call in K9 unit, get a "positive signal" from the dog and then impound your car while they get a search warrant. This wastes even more time. Probably the best strategy is repeatedly ask if you are being detained, and if the answer is no, get your ass out of their before the dog shows up. IF THEY HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE THEY WON'T NEED A SEARCH WARRANT.
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Powell and Bluedreaux, you guys should be getting .50 cents per/ question answered. Does it count if it's the same answer over and over again?The SCOTUS has ruled that a warrant isn't needed for a vehicle, just consent or probable cause. The SCOTUS has ruled that a warrant isn't needed for a vehicle, just consent or probable cause. there is never need to obtain a search warrant on a vehicle that is currently being operated. My goodness gracious.....
A COP DOESNT NEED A WARRANT TO SEARCH YOUR CAR. Consent or PC are all he needs. IF THEY HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE THEY WON'T NEED A SEARCH WARRANT.
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I got my drivers license when I was 16 and will turn 66 in May. Only once has an officer asked if I would open the trunk. I said yes and he was not the least bit interested in the shotgun laying there. Except for tier and jack the shotgun was all that was there.
I have had my truck searched several time coming back into the US from Canada but other that the crossings and the roadblock looking for a kidnapped girl no officer has ever asked to see anything but my license, registration and proof of insurance. My only ticket was from making a illegal left turn on my seventeenth birthday. That includes my seven years as a truck driver.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
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Powell and Bluedreaux, you guys should be getting .50 cents per/ question answered. Does it count if it's the same answer over and over again?The SCOTUS has ruled that a warrant isn't needed for a vehicle, just consent or probable cause. The SCOTUS has ruled that a warrant isn't needed for a vehicle, just consent or probable cause. there is never need to obtain a search warrant on a vehicle that is currently being operated. My goodness gracious.....
A COP DOESNT NEED A WARRANT TO SEARCH YOUR CAR. Consent or PC are all he needs. IF THEY HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE THEY WON'T NEED A SEARCH WARRANT. Yup. Apparently, a dog with a bad nose qualifies as probable cause.....
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You're doing a lot better than me.
College Station PD wouldn't hire because I had so many tickets on my record.
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For some reason that cracked me up.
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I was under the impression that a warrant was pretty specific and not an open ticket to look for anything and everything. How many times can you go to a judge for a warrant and come back empty handed on a fishing expedition? Depends on the judge. Some are very lenient.
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I answer no to search. I been driving for years and have only 1 speeding ticket. I would worry about the guy who says he can find something if he looks or wants to. Most I have is hunting equipment and fishing equipment.
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You need a new keyboard? I can get you a great IBM deal?
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IF THEY HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE WHAT WILL THEY NEED IN ORDER TO SEARCH A VEHICLE? Everyone answer, all together now...
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this'll wig them right out:
The Supreme Court decision Illinois v. Gates[17] lowered the threshold of probable cause by ruling that a "substantial chance" or "fair probability" of criminal activity could establish probable cause. A better-than-even chance is not required.
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I have not read the entire thread so I apologize in advance if I repeat something others have said.
I work in VT and we DO NOT have a motor vehicle exception. We can't search a vehicle without a warrant or WRITTEN COSENT. State law offers a greater level protection than federal law here. If consent is granted we have to show we had reasonable suspicion to ask.
The effect here has been the end of fishing, or asking just out of curiosity or on a whim. What this means for the driver is if consent is not given there is a very high chance your vehicle will be impounded until a warrant is obtained from or denied by a judge. In my particular county judges only hear warrant requests during court hours unless it is an emergency. So, if your car is towed on Friday night it would likely be there until Monday evening.
Several times the length of time from the vehicle being seized to the warrant being granted has been challenged in court. So far those challenges have been unsuccessful.
No one can really give great advice on this. You have to make your own informed decision based on where you are what you are or are not doing.
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And if your coming back from the woods or shooting range and you have multiple weapons in your vehicle. What now?
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IF THEY HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE WHAT WILL THEY NEED IN ORDER TO SEARCH A VEHICLE? Everyone answer, all together now... 2 keyboards OTW!! Compliments of BLUE!!
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And if your coming back from the woods or shooting range and you have multiple weapons in your vehicle. What now? In South Carolina a simple hunting license takes care of that!!!
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For some reason that cracked me up. It came up in every interview I had. The winning answer was, "Look, I used to drive really fast. But then I got married and had a baby and couldn't afford any more speeding tickets, you'll notice I haven't had any since I was married. So you're getting the best of both worlds....I know how to drive fast but I can slow down when my boss tells me to." They cracked up and offered me the job.
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I think the best way to handle it, is if you get stopped and they ask for consent to search, jist drop it in gear and haul azz put of there. That will put to rest any question of PC for either party
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And the guy who pulled over and then ran will be on the next available news broadcast.
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I gave consent once.
Stopped by female officer and told her that I had something in my front pocket.
No the other front pocket..... And she came up empty handed eh?
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