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Curdog, little mikey here.If you don't want to be regarded as ignorant upgrade the quality of your spiel. The reality you have problems recognizing is that w/out the "rough men" on the walls you, and those like you, would be subject to having the cannibals making your nutsacks into very small purses.
mike r you're way off mark with that response.
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After reading thru this thread, I'm a little flabbergasted to say the least....don't understand all of this hostility toward ANY LEO... especially most of the guys we have here on the campfire...
Well at least they have my respect, and not my condemnation..
I don't like to get pulled over any more than the next guy....
so I have a real novel approach to that solution... I do the darn speed limit...hated it at first, but got use to it after a while.. but I get out on the highway and set the cruise on 5 mph below the speed limit, and pretty much watch the world go by me...yet don't feel I get where I am going any slower.. and it sure is nice not having to worry about being on the look out for a cop cruiser...
and I'll say that about 80% of the time I have ever been pulled over in my life, I got away with a warning... and I admit to having a silver tongued 'secret weapon'.....I show the officer respect, consideration and obedience...yes sir, no sir...
The main problem isn't the LEOs, its the public and their attitudes... its now the ME generations...it wasn't the cops fault you got pulled over... or the cops fault, he had to stop and speak with you...
I assisted an Oregon State Trooper once on top of Mt Ashland, the highest point on I 5 on the west coast.. there was a 20 vehicle pile up, on an ice covered 200 yds of road, due to wind blowing snow across the freeway.... one trooper made it up....
before he got there, I ran over to a trucker and had him use his CB to get other truckers to block the highway, so no more vehicles were coming down...when the trooper got there, I told him I was a military trained Paramedic, and had just moved from MN, so I was equipped to be out in the cold... Californians were up there in flip flops shorts and t shirts, in the middle of winter, and out side their wreaked cars....
I assisted him and helped him contain the situation and provided first aid to those that needed it...
Then I wrote a letter to the Oregon State Police HQ, and let them know what a professional the Trooper was, and how he avoided the problem getting any worse...
What shocked me was the response from that letter... the first line of it was "thank you, we don't hardly ever see a letter like this...."
The public can certainly call or write to bitch, but not many feel inclined to praise the professionalism of LEOs....
yeah like everything, there is a certain percentage of officers that are AHoles.... but ya know, on the flip side of the coin, I think there is even a greater percentage of the general public that are AHoles...and the LEO have to deal with them and still maintain a professional demeanor...
I couldn't be an LEO, but I certainly respect the ones that have to put on the uniform daily and go out and do an unthankful job,, protecting an ungrateful public...
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Curdog, little mikey here.If you don't want to be regarded as ignorant upgrade the quality of your spiel. The reality you have problems recognizing is that w/out the "rough men" on the walls you, and those like you, would be subject to having the cannibals making your nutsacks into very small purses.
mike r "rough men" on the walls"......... . You gotta be schittin' me. Go find DINK and swap war stories. It's OK to invent them.
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After reading thru this thread, I'm a little flabbergasted to say the least....don't understand all of this hostility toward ANY LEO... especially most of the guys we have here on the campfire...
Well at least they have my respect, and not my condemnation..
I don't like to get pulled over any more than the next guy....
so I have a real novel approach to that solution... I do the darn speed limit...hated it at first, but got use to it after a while.. but I get out on the highway and set the cruise on 5 mph below the speed limit, and pretty much watch the world go by me...yet don't feel I get where I am going any slower.. and it sure is nice not having to worry about being on the look out for a cop cruiser...
and I'll say that about 80% of the time I have ever been pulled over in my life, I got away with a warning... and I admit to having a silver tongued 'secret weapon'.....I show the officer respect, consideration and obedience...yes sir, no sir...
The main problem isn't the LEOs, its the public and their attitudes... its now the ME generations...it wasn't the cops fault you got pulled over... or the cops fault, he had to stop and speak with you...
I assisted an Oregon State Trooper once on top of Mt Ashland, the highest point on I 5 on the west coast.. there was a 20 vehicle pile up, on an ice covered 200 yds of road, due to wind blowing snow across the freeway.... one trooper made it up....
before he got there, I ran over to a trucker and had him use his CB to get other truckers to block the highway, so no more vehicles were coming down...when the trooper got there, I told him I was a military trained Paramedic, and had just moved from MN, so I was equipped to be out in the cold... Californians were up there in flip flops shorts and t shirts, in the middle of winter, and out side their wreaked cars....
I assisted him and helped him contain the situation and provided first aid to those that needed it...
Then I wrote a letter to the Oregon State Police HQ, and let them know what a professional the Trooper was, and how he avoided the problem getting any worse...
What shocked me was the response from that letter... the first line of it was "thank you, we don't hardly ever see a letter like this...."
The public can certainly call or write to bitch, but not many feel inclined to praise the professionalism of LEOs....
yeah like everything, there is a certain percentage of officers that are AHoles.... but ya know, on the flip side of the coin, I think there is even a greater percentage of the general public that are AHoles...and the LEO have to deal with them and still maintain a professional demeanor...
I couldn't be an LEO, but I certainly respect the ones that have to put on the uniform daily and go out and do an unthankful job,, protecting an ungrateful public... As long as both sides use the it's them, not me, then status quo will remain the rule. I do understand that status quo is what many actually want in the first place.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson
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Seafire, you obviously ain't met Dink
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Seafire, you obviously ain't met Dink I'll bet you haven't met him either. I'll aslo bet you are your own worst nenemy when it cones to interaction with LE.
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Dink, of all the douchebag cops I've conversed with on gun site's you are the #1 douche of them all. I hope you enjoy you status, and I hope one day to be able to hear about someone giving you what you so richly deserve. I really hope I get to read about it. Awwwww...did I hurt your feelings again? I have no doubt you would have to read about someone doing something to me. Guys like you sit around and have to read about everything cause you never done anything.... Dink
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Seafire, you obviously ain't met Dink I'll bet you haven't met him either. I'll aslo bet you are your own worst nenemy when it cones to interaction with LE. Nah, I get along with 'em fine around here, they're not arrogant little pricks.
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Dink, of all the douchebag cops I've conversed with on gun site's you are the #1 douche of them all. I hope you enjoy you status, and I hope one day to be able to hear about someone giving you what you so richly deserve. I really hope I get to read about it. Guys like you sit around and have to read about everything cause you never done anything.... Dink Your an idiot, I forgot more about doing real [bleep] than your little punk ass will ever know.
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Hey Curdog, apparently that upgrade didn't take. Try again.
mike r
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Mirage 243, you just qualified yourself as a genuine internet tough guy.
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Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that. Craig Douglas ECQC
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You can't judge the actions of any LEO unless it is happening to you. You should wait till the results of the investigation to pass judgement. Just look at all the idiots who believed the lies about George Zimmerman. You shouldn't join their stupidity.
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You can't judge the actions of any LEO unless it is happening to you. You should wait till the results of the investigation to pass judgement. Just look at all the idiots who believed the lies about George Zimmerman. You shouldn't join their stupidity. The 'lies" about Zimmerman actually weren't lies at all. He murdered that kid.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson
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You can't judge the actions of any LEO unless it is happening to you. You should wait till the results of the investigation to pass judgement. Just look at all the idiots who believed the lies about George Zimmerman. You shouldn't join their stupidity. I think Zimmerman was innocent, that said - I believe the public at large can and should judge the actions of LEOs. Public Servants...
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The kid had every right to be there, he was minding his own business as well. Zimmerman, a wanna be tough guy (only when he's armed) confronted the kid and the kid likely told him to F off. So Zimmerman likely grabbed him and bit off more than he could chew and was getting the sxxt smacked out of him in a fight he started. So Zimmerman finds this unacceptable and pulls out his metal courage and shoots a 17 year old. No biggy though as he was black and....well...you know.
Zimmerman was for sure guilty of a manslaughter charge.
How many of you having Son's that age, who came home and told you Zimmerman beat them up on the way home and actually shot him, wouldn't grab your sidearm and tell the misses "I'll be back in a minute"
Tavon never got that chance to tell his side. He wasn't a bad kid and not much different from many 17 year olds with a little weed issue, skipping school but nothing more than that.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson
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Tavon never got that chance to tell his side. He wasn't a bad kid and not much different from many 17 year olds with a little weed issue, skipping school but nothing more than that.
You may want to google his juvenile record for the robbery/burglary issues, along with the stolen items found in his possession at school. But don't let that stop you, you are on a roll...
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Hey, watch it. He's a chemist. He's real, real smart.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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You still sticking with that gay guy avatar eh....
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson
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So what does one suppose happens when a George Zimmerman gets to be a Cop....
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson
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