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Originally Posted by KFWA
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So I have skimmed through some of the posts here, and I can not figure out what some people want. Is it:

No police or law enforcement? Barney, Mayberry days are not coming back. If you ever talk to really old timers they will tell you they went from proactive to reactive decades ago. Gee, I wonder if that anything to do with the great new society the 60s produced.

Sure there are bad cops, there is bad or good in any job field. It's all about attitude and maturity.

Imagine if you will what this country/society would look like with out the thin blue line.

As far as the pay issue goes, that's all relative. Some, I said some required you to live in your county/wherever or a few minutes away. High cost=higher pay.


the thin blue line works/exists because it has the support of the public...financially, legislatively, and thru general goodwill and presumed good intent

The more that support erodes, the less effective police can be.


And that is why we need to do away with cell phone cameras or other means for recording police activities. Get us back to that happier time when the claims of the officers involved were all that mattered.


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Originally Posted by Harry M
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You can't judge the actions of any LEO unless it is happening to you. You should wait till the results of the investigation to pass judgement. Just look at all the idiots who believed the lies about George Zimmerman. You shouldn't join their stupidity.


The 'lies" about Zimmerman actually weren't lies at all. He murdered that kid.


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Hey, watch it. He's a chemist. He's real, real smart.


Does this mean that he's smoking his own meth?

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Originally Posted by Harry M
The kid had every right to be there, he was minding his own business as well. Zimmerman, a wanna be tough guy (only when he's armed) confronted the kid and the kid likely told him to F off. So Zimmerman likely grabbed him and bit off more than he could chew and was getting the sxxt smacked out of him in a fight he started. So Zimmerman finds this unacceptable and pulls out his metal courage and shoots a 17 year old. No biggy though as he was black and....well...you know.

Zimmerman was for sure guilty of a manslaughter charge.

How many of you having Son's that age, who came home and told you Zimmerman beat them up on the way home and actually shot him, wouldn't grab your sidearm and tell the misses "I'll be back in a minute"

Tavon never got that chance to tell his side. He wasn't a bad kid and not much different from many 17 year olds with a little weed issue, skipping school but nothing more than that.




Everything that happened there was on the level since Zimmerman was going on ride alongs with the police. Zimmerman got in with them so well his initial condemnation of this incident:

http://www.mynews13.com/content/new..._allegedly_involving_son_of_officer.html


changed to nothing but praise for their activities.


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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Originally Posted by Harry M
Originally Posted by ConradCA
You can't judge the actions of any LEO unless it is happening to you. You should wait till the results of the investigation to pass judgement. Just look at all the idiots who believed the lies about George Zimmerman. You shouldn't join their stupidity.


The 'lies" about Zimmerman actually weren't lies at all. He murdered that kid.


FOAD.


F off and die...your debating skills along with your high IQ have left me speechless....what are you 10? maybe 11?


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Originally Posted by Harry M
The kid had every right to be there, he was minding his own business as well. Zimmerman, a wanna be tough guy (only when he's armed) confronted the kid and the kid likely told him to F off. So Zimmerman likely grabbed him and bit off more than he could chew and was getting the sxxt smacked out of him in a fight he started. So Zimmerman finds this unacceptable and pulls out his metal courage and shoots a 17 year old. No biggy though as he was black and....well...you know.

Zimmerman was for sure guilty of a manslaughter charge.

How many of you having Son's that age, who came home and told you Zimmerman beat them up on the way home and actually shot him, wouldn't grab your sidearm and tell the misses "I'll be back in a minute"

Tavon never got that chance to tell his side. He wasn't a bad kid and not much different from many 17 year olds with a little weed issue, skipping school but nothing more than that.



Holy God! Another on ignore. That was easy.

We can't hardly hire any cops here (good or bad) because we don't have enough applicants and definitely don't have enough applicants that can pass the test....whatever that is. Not sure of the other requirements.



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Originally Posted by 257heaven
Originally Posted by Harry M
The kid had every right to be there, he was minding his own business as well. Zimmerman, a wanna be tough guy (only when he's armed) confronted the kid and the kid likely told him to F off. So Zimmerman likely grabbed him and bit off more than he could chew and was getting the sxxt smacked out of him in a fight he started. So Zimmerman finds this unacceptable and pulls out his metal courage and shoots a 17 year old. No biggy though as he was black and....well...you know.

Zimmerman was for sure guilty of a manslaughter charge.

How many of you having Son's that age, who came home and told you Zimmerman beat them up on the way home and actually shot him, wouldn't grab your sidearm and tell the misses "I'll be back in a minute"

Tavon never got that chance to tell his side. He wasn't a bad kid and not much different from many 17 year olds with a little weed issue, skipping school but nothing more than that.



Holy God! Another on ignore. That was easy.

We can't hardly hire any cops here (good or bad) because we don't have enough applicants and definitely don't have enough applicants that can pass the test....whatever that is. Not sure of the other requirements.



Glad that works for you, it's always the best call when you are in over your head....


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Originally Posted by Seafire
After reading thru this thread, I'm a little flabbergasted to say the least....don't understand all of this hostility toward ANY LEO... especially most of the guys we have here on the campfire...

Well at least they have my respect, and not my condemnation..

I don't like to get pulled over any more than the next guy....

so I have a real novel approach to that solution... I do the darn speed limit...hated it at first, but got use to it after a while..
but I get out on the highway and set the cruise on 5 mph below the speed limit, and pretty much watch the world go by me...yet don't feel I get where I am going any slower.. and it sure is nice not having to worry about being on the look out for a cop cruiser...

and I'll say that about 80% of the time I have ever been pulled over in my life, I got away with a warning... and I admit to having a silver tongued 'secret weapon'.....I show the officer respect, consideration and obedience...yes sir, no sir...

The main problem isn't the LEOs, its the public and their attitudes... its now the ME generations...it wasn't the cops fault you got pulled over... or the cops fault, he had to stop and speak with you...

I assisted an Oregon State Trooper once on top of Mt Ashland, the highest point on I 5 on the west coast.. there was a 20 vehicle pile up, on an ice covered 200 yds of road, due to wind blowing snow across the freeway.... one trooper made it up....

before he got there, I ran over to a trucker and had him use his CB to get other truckers to block the highway, so no more vehicles were coming down...when the trooper got there, I told him I was a military trained Paramedic, and had just moved from MN, so I was equipped to be out in the cold... Californians were up there in flip flops shorts and t shirts, in the middle of winter, and out side their wreaked cars....

I assisted him and helped him contain the situation and provided first aid to those that needed it...

Then I wrote a letter to the Oregon State Police HQ, and let them know what a professional the Trooper was, and how he avoided the problem getting any worse...

What shocked me was the response from that letter... the first line of it was "thank you, we don't hardly ever see a letter like this...."

The public can certainly call or write to bitch, but not many feel inclined to praise the professionalism of LEOs....

yeah like everything, there is a certain percentage of officers that are AHoles.... but ya know, on the flip side of the coin, I think there is even a greater percentage of the general public that are AHoles...and the LEO have to deal with them and still maintain a professional demeanor...

I couldn't be an LEO, but I certainly respect the ones that have to put on the uniform daily and go out and do an unthankful job,, protecting an ungrateful public...



Not only that, but in Oklahoma obeying traffic laws means somewhat less of a chance of an officer having to sexually assault you to maintain order according Captain Brown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYNdqwx3LU


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Hey Big Ragu, how about some new material?

You've already spammed threads with that schit.

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Originally Posted by lvmiker
Curdog, little mikey here.If you don't want to be regarded as ignorant upgrade the quality of your spiel. The reality you have problems recognizing is that w/out the "rough men" on the walls you, and those like you, would be subject to having the cannibals making your nutsacks into very small purses.

mike r


"rough men" on the walls"......... .

You gotta be schittin' me.

Go find DINK and swap war stories. It's OK to invent them.



You mean the claim about Missouri seat belt and helmet laws coming from the US Congress is a falsehood?


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Originally Posted by Harry M


F off and die...your debating skills along with your high IQ have left me speechless....what are you 10? maybe 11?


There's nothing to 'debate', retard. You musta missed the trial.

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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Originally Posted by Harry M


F off and die...your debating skills along with your high IQ have left me speechless....what are you 10? maybe 11?


There's nothing to 'debate', retard. You musta missed the trial.


You are not supposed to make my case for me....didn't know if you knew that.


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Originally Posted by RWE
Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
Hey, watch it. He's a chemist. He's real, real smart.


Does this mean that he's smoking his own meth?


I...Am....HarryM.

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your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
Hey, watch it. He's a chemist. He's real, real smart.


Does this mean that he's smoking his own meth?


I...Am....HarryM.

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Actually thanks, that guy looks better than me..


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Publicly announce that the police, nation wide, are taking the week off. Then do it.

These threads vanish in 2 hours...


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But, seriously though...posting silly pictures is a tad lame is it not? Should I put you down for "you got nothing'?


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Originally Posted by HugAJackass
Publicly announce that the police, nation wide, are taking the week off. Then do it.

These threads vanish in 2 hours...


Life will go on as usual. The first sign of an over inflated ego is believing one is indispensable, none of us are, sorry.


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Life would go on?

Who's?

Think it would be yours?

That's cute...


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Originally Posted by Harry M
Originally Posted by ConradCA
You can't judge the actions of any LEO unless it is happening to you. You should wait till the results of the investigation to pass judgement. Just look at all the idiots who believed the lies about George Zimmerman. You shouldn't join their stupidity.


The 'lies" about Zimmerman actually weren't lies at all. He murdered that kid.
So, you ARE from Massachusetts. smirk


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Originally Posted by HugAJackass
Life would go on?

Who's?

Think it would be yours?

That's cute...


The jobs would be re-posted, new hires would step in, and life would indeed go one.

I worked for a guy one time who kept a glass of water on his desk with a pencil in it. Whenever the natives got restless and complained about the job he would say "look at how little the water level changes when I remove the pencil"

Really, don't ever think any of us can't be replaced, that's how you will get ambushed.


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