Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Long Range Hunting What cartridge/bullet/caliber 06 and below is king?

If I was considering a 25-06 AI and pondering that question, I'd go with the .264 version, many more good high BC bullets to choose from.

Robert White,

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The 215 Berger hybrid would probably better represent the 30, especially in AI. BC = 0.696.

I'm not too familiar with the 25-06AI, but you should be able to run the 115 gr Berger VLD to 3100 fps, I would guess.

With a BC of .466, it's just not going to hang.

The 215 Berger at 2750 or so should be darn good.

Berger 180 7mm .659........hunting VLD

purty close.......probably 1/10" difference @ 500 yd POI

Savage shooters........FYI...Pac Nor has a small shank

280 AI 24" SS SM tube on the shelf ready to ship...$435

Light Palma contour...someone must have ordered & backed out

I may order a 280AI P-N...but 27"

For lots of guys it's something in .264 diameter, it has the best combination of light bullets for low recoil (140s) and BCs in the 600's.

Here's a little heads up from my recoil slide. Lighter bullets at higher velocity recoils less.


7 Rem Mag..........120 grain........3,380.........12 7/8�
7 Rem Mag..........140 grain........3,027.........15 5/16�
7 Rem Mag..........170 grain........2,852.........19 15/16�

If you're talking about lighter bullets from the same cartridge, of course you are correct, but here's a little heads up from my reading comprehension guide:

I wasn't.

MM
I did give the Rel22 a good working over.For about the same weight of powder the Rel22 gave about 100 fps over the Hunter powder.
Back and forth I went between them at 600 yards.
My Obymeyer AMU is a 28 incher.
My top load with the Rel22 and the 210g LRBT ran at 2900.
The Hunter was 2800.
I settled on Hunter for one pure and simple reason.
It was more accurate in my barrel.
It was close.
I like the case very much but you dont see them very often as most people go with the WSM.
I like to be different.
The 06 and the 30 cal SAUM are very close.

Alot of people over look the LRBT lineup from Berger.
VLDs and hybrids have higher BCs and attract alot of attention.
But day in day out the LRBT is less fussy to tune and keep tuned than VLD and hybrids. At least in my experience.
I always read your 06 stuff with interest.

dave

That's great performance.

I haven't had any of the short mags, but I always thought the SAUM seemed like a well balanced design for the 7mm and 30 cal. The 6.5 SAUM seems to be a winner too.

smokepole,

I told my wife you like to have the last word. I said, "Watch this." You didn't let me down.

Too funny. My wife will never know you exist.

Obviously a sign of low self esteem and fear that your wife will leave you for ringman.

For my 1000 yard stuff.It has been very good for me.
Case life is excellent.
I have often thought a 300 SAUM with a straight up feeding mag in a sub 10 pound tactical rifle would be kinda handie to have around.
The 208g Amax say.The LRBT is a target only round.Would have to look into OAL and mag lengths and stuff.but I think it would be a interesting project.

A guy I shoot against right now is working over a 300 WSM set up for the 230g Hybrid. He used the Berger recommended 1-10 twist. At velocitys less than 2700 fps hes getting funny shaped bullets holes on paper at 100 yards.Once he get over 2700 the odd shaped bullet holes go away and it shoots ever so well.
He right on the edge.
Surprised Berger recommends that twist for the 230..
Ill have all next summer to shoot against him.will find out how that bullet does at 1000.

For the 1000 yard Silhouette we shoot.
There is no dominate round.
Last summer at the two day event some guy shot a 37 out of 40 with a 260 Rem.I shot a 34 with the 300 SUAM. And that day I was 4th.....
If I had to pick the most winning round we get beat with month in and month out it would be a 6x47 lapua with the 105g Berger hybrid.
Theres 6mm Dashers on the line as well.
Something about that little 6x47.

dave

I was shopping around for a 1/9 twist to rebuild my old 30-06

The old 175 grain 308 SMK B/C's

.505 @ 2800 fps and above
.496 between 2800 and 1800 fps
.485 @ 1800 fps and below

New plastic tipped 175-TMK B/C's
545 @ 2400 fps and above
.530 between 2400 and 1800 fps
.495 @ 1800 and below

I wonder if Sierra will continue putting tips on more of the heavier 308's?

lol, if I asked my wife to observe one of these exchanges about ballistic gack with a stranger on the internet she'd look at me like I had a third eye on my forehead.

She obviously doesn't shoot. If she did, she would understand...

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