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I have not bought anything from Ruger since and hell will freeze over before I buy one again
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Campfire Kahuna
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Pretty cold up your way tonight isn't it. LOL.
I hear you. Since that happened I had a Ruger#1 given to me as a gift. Figured that wasn't too bad.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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-12 with a 40mph wind, you could say cold. Going to get bad in the morning
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Campfire Ranger
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Ruger don't bother me anymore, Bill is gone, they sell everything anyone else does. I have a few of their products, the ones that make some sense.
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Campfire Tracker
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I've had a couple of Mini 14's and they have been consistently inaccurate. 3 to 4 inch groups at 100 yards was about as good as I could do with either of them.
I decided to try out a new Mini 30 after they made the change to the heavier barrel because I really like the way they feel as compared to an AR. 4 to 6 inch groups were the norm. After a bunch of add ons that were supposed to cure all the Mini 30's problems, the groups were down to about 3 inches at 100 yards. I bedded the fore end to the gas block. That seemed to make a bigger improvement in the accuracy than anything else I did. Groups hover between 1.5 and 2 inches now. To me that is fine for a Mini 30 with the ammo I shoot and what I use it for.
I like the handiness and way the Ruger Mini's feel, but have never owned an AR that shot as bad as a Mini 14/30 does. If they are performing to the design standards that Ruger set, then Ruger should have never made it possible to mount a scope on them.
Harry
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you are spot on, I called smith and wesson about their MP10 and told them I was getting 1.5-2 inch groups like that, and they said that was about right...its in the design of the gun. The Ruger SR762 I have has yet to shoot a bad group even when its crappy factory trigger is installed of course the GAME CHANGING DPMS Gen2 was another story entirely.
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I shot a TC renegade probably 200 rounds or more testing this and that for elk loads... and yes I"m a hair OT...
Would shoot about 4 inches best case at 100 wiht irons.
I sent it back to them.
They sent it back with a fired target, about 4 inches at 100, saying it was working perfectly and grouping fine...
Promptly bought a green mountain tube, and was down right at an inch wiht 565 grain slugs and 100 grains of powder... no tinkering require....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Yes: out of the box AR 1-2.5"; Mini-14 2-4+". A better barrel and trigger puts the AR into good bolt action level of accuracy.
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I have a cheap ass DPMS AR upper with a plum crazy composite lower with a RRA match trigger. It will do this all day long with cheap american eagle 50gr varmint tips. HAD 2 mini's, never better than 2.5-3 moa with either. (one had the trigger done).
Last edited by whitedogone; 01/27/15.
"Any one who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford
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Triggers don't make a gun more accurate.. never have. They make it easier to shoot it better though.
But I won some medals at Camp Perry once upon a time with about an 7.5/8 pound trigger... long story there, but the M1A when auto on me and we just drug a strip of emory in there to get it safea nd back to to passing the weight issue...
Still can't recall seeing an AR that would not do MOA with some type of ammo... even the cheapest POS ones... One had to be shot wtih 40 grain though...
NEVER seen a mini shoot MOA.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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