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so will the 284 nosler will work best when made on a 30 06 length action instead of a 7mm magnum length action? Talking a Remington 700 here.

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since they are the same, yes?

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Originally Posted by jwp475


No logic in your reply, you stil haven't stated why the bullet should not be seated below the neck shoulder junction.
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I didn't say there was anything WRONG with doing so, other than taking up powder space, but having 100% the bullets bearing surface in contact with the case neck isn't something I need "science" to figure out is a good idea.

I'm talking optimum, not make do here.

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Originally Posted by 79inpa
so will the 284 nosler will work best when made on a 30 06 length action instead of a 7mm magnum length action? Talking a Remington 700 here.


Maybe, haven't done the math yet, but loading long/heavy high BC bullet might create a problem where a bunch of the bullet's bearing surface is below the case neck, which is hardly ideal for optimal accuracy.

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Here are four of the bullets I will use in my new wildcats. Both will have necks in the neighborhood of .300". Notice the length of the bearing surfaces will give a lot of latitude for over all lengths.

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edited to add the bearing lengths: 123 Scenar - .368", 106 G.S.Custom - .300", 142 Matrix - .400", 130 Cutting Edge - .440"

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Originally Posted by Glocktard
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so will the 284 nosler will work best when made on a 30 06 length action instead of a 7mm magnum length action? Talking a Remington 700 here.


Maybe, haven't done the math yet, but loading long/heavy high BC bullet might create a problem where a bunch of the bullet's bearing surface is below the case neck, which is hardly ideal for optimal accuracy.


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case water capacity was established with a new 26 Nosler case necked up to 7mm and no other changes .......

a dry empty case with a live WLRM primer was weighed and then case was filled with water to top of case .... I repeated the water weight 20 times and 370.1 gr was the most constant at 14 times, the other 6 weights showed 370.0 gr
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nope, nothing to like there.. You happen to have a similar cut away of an STW or RUM, to really paint a picture?

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Yeah, but you see how those bullets are approximately .001 of a [bleep] hair past the neck/shoulder junction? Won't shoot worth a schit.... Next!

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Originally Posted by Tanner
Yeah, but you see how those bullets are approximately .001 of a [bleep] hair past the neck/shoulder junction? Won't shoot worth a schit.... Next!

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Maybe, maybe not. Pressure increase is a given though the deeper you seat. May not matter. Sometimes it might.

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Damn, back to the drawing board.

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Originally Posted by Glocktard
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Yeah, but you see how those bullets are approximately .001 of a [bleep] hair past the neck/shoulder junction? Won't shoot worth a schit.... Next!

Tanner


Maybe, maybe not. Pressure increase is a given though the deeper you seat. May not matter. Sometimes it might.


you're in way over your head..please stop.

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Originally Posted by Glocktard
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Yeah, but you see how those bullets are approximately .001 of a [bleep] hair past the neck/shoulder junction? Won't shoot worth a schit.... Next!

Tanner


Maybe, maybe not. Pressure increase is a given though the deeper you seat. May not matter. Sometimes it might.


Not really... Backing away from the lands will simultaneously decrease pressure.... But only a guy with your type of Gifted Spidey Sense would know exactly how much....

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Originally Posted by Tanner


Not really... Backing away from the lands will simultaneously decrease pressure.... But only a guy with your type of Gifted Spidey Sense would know exactly how much....

Tanner [/quote]

Got it. That means bullet setback in an AR never blew up a rifle. Thanks.

I never would've known that backing a bullet off the lands decreased pressure. Is that why they make them thar case trimmin' things? A little case mouth jammed into the leade don't hurt nothin', right?

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So what you are saying is that backing a bullet away from the lands does NOT, in fact, decrease pressure? Not that you had any credibility beforehand, but goodness gracious dude... Lay off the White Lightning....

BTW, we are talking precision bullets and precision rifles here Rambo... Not AR's stuffed with FMJs...

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Originally Posted by Tanner
So what you are saying is that backing a bullet away from the lands does NOT, in fact, decrease pressure?


Are you required to take some sort of reading comprehension test (Regents or similar) to graduate from college in CO?

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