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About 4 years ago some idiots tried to shoot their way into our shipping container we use for storage at our range. Husky Master Lock withstood several rounds , surrounding metal did not, they didn't get in.


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Originally Posted by HilhamHawk
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5 gal propane tanks don't explode either.

(safe range)


Oxygen tanks, however, do.............. eek


We use to take old propane tack fill them with 2 gallon of gas, then fill them with 80 psi of air. place them in a plowed field, and back off 100 yards and hit them with a 30-06 tracer round. Make sure you don't use a field that hasent been plowed or you will need a fire truck

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Originally Posted by Glocktard
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It is a proven fact that you cannot cut down an oak tree with a few wraps of 70's era commercial Primacord, even if you add a couple of sticks of dynamite to the mix.

It is, however, a proven fact that you can split said oak tree to the ground with a couple of sticks of said dynamite placed in the Y of the trunk.

It's all about location.


Timber cutting charge calculations are on the GI Demo card. Probably find it on line.


Pounds dynamite equals trunk diameter squared divided by 40. Divide by 50 if you want to keep the trunk attached to the stump. I learned something at Combat Engineer school. Or just go P(ounds)is for plenty. Add until it looks right.

Nothing like the smell of a freshly blown up pine tree.


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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Gene I knew an old acquaintance from Moran Tx who had a classmate tie a stick on a buzzards leg. With a long fuze. Had ideas of watching the poor bird blow up riding a thermal.
Well buzzard finally got off ground and lit on ridge of barn roof. Apparently it's had for a buzzard to fly with a stick of dynamite tied to his leg. Results are not hard to guess.


Laughed out loud at your story. My dad's favorite true story was just about like that. On the farm, he and his brothers used to get dynamite at the local hardware store, tie a half stick to a crow's feet (caught in a trap) light it and watch it fly off, with the predictable results. It was always great entertainment he told me.

One time they caught a pigeon, and prepped the pigeon in similar fashion. When they lit the fuse and turned it loose, it promptly flew and perched on a church steeple, blowing the steeple to smithereens. My grandfather was a man of few words and his actions after that had my dad and uncles out of the dynamite business in a New York second. My dad and uncles had to rebuild the church steeple by themselves minus each of their ass cheeks.


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Ya need to call Paladin when you get those thoughts. Or Gene (Curdog), I hear that he has been practicing, but with washers so he can reuse them. miles


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Sounds like some of the guys here might know the answer to this question: How does the explosive force of one stick of dynamite compare to a U.S. fragmentation grenade?

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Anyone remember the television commercials for Master padlocks where they would shoot the lock with a rifle?


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Originally Posted by old70
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Originally Posted by Son_of_the_Gael
It is a proven fact that you cannot cut down an oak tree with a few wraps of 70's era commercial Primacord, even if you add a couple of sticks of dynamite to the mix.

It is, however, a proven fact that you can split said oak tree to the ground with a couple of sticks of said dynamite placed in the Y of the trunk.

It's all about location.


Timber cutting charge calculations are on the GI Demo card. Probably find it on line.


Pounds dynamite equals trunk diameter squared divided by 40. Divide by 50 if you want to keep the trunk attached to the stump. I learned something at Combat Engineer school. Or just go P(ounds)is for plenty. Add until it looks right.

Nothing like the smell of a freshly blown up pine tree.



Does the amount required vary with the type of tree? Specifically oak vs. pine?


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Had a friend that had to try out a .30-06 AP round on a short section of railroad rail that his dad used to keep the machine shed door open. I felt something on my boot and looked down to see a black smear along it. Friend was looking strange and holding his side; the jacket was tangled in his coat, but had managed to lay his side open.


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Most people seem to forget or never knew just how elastic steel is. Some learn the hard way.


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I tend to favor the cutting torch for lock work


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Someone attempted to shoot the lock off the gate to our local range. There was a pool of blood on the ground some 10 ft back. They were never rounded up though.


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I saw[just yesterday]Wesley Snipes blow a lock off of a chained door at a good and safe range of about 2', no problem.


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Originally Posted by 1minute
Someone attempted to shoot the lock off the gate to our local range. There was a pool of blood on the ground some 10 ft back. They were never rounded up though.


That is almost as fantastic as the story in the Des Moines paper a few years back about an idiot who tried to steal anhydrous ammonia by breaking off the locked valve. The escaping product struck him in the front, just a bit below his belt buckle. Sometimes justice serves itself very well.


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Originally Posted by Son_of_the_Gael
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It is a proven fact that you cannot cut down an oak tree with a few wraps of 70's era commercial Primacord, even if you add a couple of sticks of dynamite to the mix.

It is, however, a proven fact that you can split said oak tree to the ground with a couple of sticks of said dynamite placed in the Y of the trunk.

It's all about location.


Timber cutting charge calculations are on the GI Demo card. Probably find it on line.


Pounds dynamite equals trunk diameter squared divided by 40. Divide by 50 if you want to keep the trunk attached to the stump. I learned something at Combat Engineer school. Or just go P(ounds)is for plenty. Add until it looks right.

Nothing like the smell of a freshly blown up pine tree.



Does the amount required vary with the type of tree? Specifically oak vs. pine?


Not in my experience. I've had pretty good success with both hard and softwoods using the formulas, but we mainly used C4, which takes a further conversion factor due to the relative power of the two explosives. You can also cut a fairly large tree with military det cord, but it takes a lot of wraps to generate the force for a larger tree.

Back before it became verboten, my platoon created several impromptu LZs and an abatis at Ft. A.P. Hill during training.
As a result, whenever the 'what caliber have you killed deer with' thread comes up, I can honestly answer 'C4'.

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Originally Posted by 5sdad
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Someone attempted to shoot the lock off the gate to our local range. There was a pool of blood on the ground some 10 ft back. They were never rounded up though.


That is almost as fantastic as the story in the Des Moines paper a few years back about an idiot who tried to steal anhydrous ammonia by breaking off the locked valve. The escaping product struck him in the front, just a bit below his belt buckle. Sometimes justice serves itself very well.


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Originally Posted by 1beaver_shooter
I tend to favor the cutting torch for lock work


A Broco is MUCH faster. Like a cross between a stick-welder and a plasma cutter. The rods are expensive I'm told. Takes a bit but you can cut a railroad track in two with one.

They are using these for disaster recovery now.


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Do these threads ever take on a "life" all their own!?


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When I taught locksmithing in the Navy I kept a box of Master padlocks without keys in my shop aboard the USS Grand Canyon. I used then to teach beginning lockpicking and impressioning because they are some of the easiest to learn on.

I don't see the need to ever shoot of cut one.


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Old70,

Using your formula it would appear that the intrepid experimenters I mentioned simply didn't use enough Primacord to do the job.

I, of course, wasn't there to witness the experiment, all my information is hearsay and if my fingerprints were on the batteries used to set off the caps that would be strictly circumstantial.


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