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You should have extra compassion for TRH since he has to trudge that weary abuse road all alone.

[It's all part of the narcissism and the scam. The "it's all about me" meshes well with the "I'm a victim and I'm being persecuted" line of their "belief system". If they aren't the center of attention and especially if they feel like they aren't being ridiculed or persecuted or otherwise made a victim, then they simply aren't complete. This gets twisted right up into the long con as they can play the "we're victims; people are mean to us because of what we believe; we're sick; we're poor; please help us" line. With that, they gain confidence and compassion from the marks, and the scam works. At any point along the line when they are caught, the fall back to "we're sick; we're poor; you hate us because of our beliefs" mantra gets trotted right back out.

They've gotten a few to buy into the sales pitch and have their posse ready to ride to their defense whenever they are caught ("leave them alone"; "they're good Christians"; "he/they treated me right"; etc.). That little bit of "done right" builds right into the story line and makes the long con even more effective.

Isn't it just amazing how it's always someone else's fault that the deal went south, or that the old folks called in the insurance bureau and he got nailed, or that they are dead broke (constantly; yet always buying total crap instead of saving a dime), or that the bear didn't get ass-shot and then killed by someone else, or... well, you get the picture. It's part of the narcissism, of the always being a victim and persecuted, and of the con.

TRH is odd.

But I don't recall him scamming anybody.



Travis

Stuff. PTL! Stuff.

I know not a single person that has undergone treatment for life threatening illness (or serious health issues in general) that was worried about "stuff". Well, unless the "stuff" focused on those around them - rather than self.

I think safariman and his wife are psychotic.




Travis

I think safariman and his wife are psychotic.

I believe psychotic con artists is the correct term?

Some food for thought, from Martha Stout:


�After listening for almost twenty-five years to the stories my patients tell me about sociopaths who have invaded and injured their lives, when I am asked, �How can I tell whom not to trust?� the answer I give usually surprises people. The natural expectation is that I will describe some sinister-sounding detail of behavior or snippet of body language or threatening use of language that is the subtle giveaway. Instead, I take people aback by assuring them that the tip-off is none of these things, for none of these things is reliably present. Rather, the best clue is, of all things, the pity play. The most reliable sign, the most universal behavior of unscrupulous people is not directed, as one might imagine, at our fearfulness. It is, perversely, an appeal to our sympathy.�
- Martha Stout, The Sociopath Next Door


Sociopaths have no regard whatsoever for the social contract, but they do know how to use it to their advantage. And all in all, I am sure that if the devil existed, he would want us to feel very sorry for him.�
- Martha Stout, The Sociopath Next Door


�If, instead, you find yourself often pitying someone who consistently hurts you or other people, and who actively campaigns for your sympathy, the chances are close to 100 percent that you are dealing with a sociopath.�
- Martha Stout, The Sociopath Next Door: The Ruthless Versus the Rest of Us


�when confronted with a destructive outcome that is clearly their doing, they will say, plain and simple, �I never did that,� and will to all appearances believe their own direct lie.�
- Martha Stout, The Sociopath Next Door

But the real question, IMHO, is what kind of perverse pleasure do those people get, by denigrating others over and over, just to make themselves look superior.

It's all part of the narcissism and the scam. The "it's all about me" meshes well with the "I'm a victim and I'm being persecuted" line of their "belief system". If they aren't the center of attention and especially if they feel like they aren't being ridiculed or persecuted or otherwise made a victim, then they simply aren't complete. This gets twisted right up into the long con as they can play the "we're victims; people are mean to us because of what we believe; we're sick; we're poor; please help us" line. With that, they gain confidence and compassion from the marks, and the scam works. At any point along the line when they are caught, the fall back to "we're sick; we're poor; you hate us because of our beliefs" mantra gets trotted right back out.

They've gotten a few to buy into the sales pitch and have their posse ready to ride to their defense whenever they are caught ("leave them alone"; "they're good Christians"; "he/they treated me right"; etc.). That little bit of "done right" builds right into the story line and makes the long con even more effective.

Isn't it just amazing how it's always someone else's fault that the deal went south, or that the old folks called in the insurance bureau and he got nailed, or that they are dead broke (constantly; yet always buying total crap instead of saving a dime), or that the bear didn't get ass-shot and then killed by someone else, or... well, you get the picture. It's part of the narcissism, of the always being a victim and persecuted, and of the con.

I cannot recall safariman, and certainly not his wife, denigrating anyone. Not saying it never happened, but only that compared to the rest of the lot on this site, he is no worse than many and much better than most, in that regard.

Neither, do I believe it fair to cast his sins upon his wife. She should have no part in any of this piling on. The lions share of her posts that I have read, are praying for and encouraging others.

RickyD and Wyogal show up to confirm a good bit of this; right on time and on schedule.

Not sympathy. But self respect. 4ager, just because you think it, it doesn't make it necessarily true....