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I like the third one down. Too bad he couldn't afford the cool grips with the logo on them...... ![[Linked Image]](http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p32/2muchgun/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-09/2015-01/051097E1-6C72-44A8-9B4B-34C987DF61EA_zpsnw4rymij.jpg)
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A shame to see even a purely opinion poll go down the tubes.
It asked what YOU think of... not what won the west or the east or beat the natives or the germans etc....
Which means there can be a ton of answers. Wrong. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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well deserved... Then again you could have called them Remington 700s...
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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well deserved... Then again you could have called them Remington 700s... True, but calling them Rugers was more accurate (pun there, maybe two).
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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well deserved... Then again you could have called them Remington 700s... Those are made in the northeast. The northeast stopped being America a long time ago, so they don't qualify. Travis
Last edited by deflave; 01/30/15. Reason: had to clarify geographic location
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A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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I don't know how any of you can pick anything other than the LONG RIFLE I guess it depends on what you consider "most American". The Long Rifle is the absolute peak of American gunmaking, unquestionably. I choose the lever action rifle because it was a purely American invention, and wherever you are in the world, if someone sees a lever action rifle, they know it's American. With the Long Rifle, while unique to those who really know their flintlocks, most gun people really can't tell the difference between the US Long Rifle and a French Fusil or even a small bore fowler. True aficionados know that the Long Rifle was the finest gun in the world for a short time, but only the aficionados. But EVERYONE recognizes the lever action rifle and knows it's American.
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 Simon Fraser sure as hell knows the longrifle is all American!!
Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish! ![[Linked Image]](http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/EvilTwinMar/Sabretooth-1.jpg)
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That's the Pennsylvania long Rifle to be exact. The case could be made we would not be here without it. As much as I love the Long Rifle and the pride of being an American, it shaped the technology of firearms for a couple of decades, but it just wasn't used in numbers sufficient to really change a war. It demonstratively dominated one battle I can think of, and affected a few more. Was brilliant in small units, but the reality is the guns that are responsible for the US still being here were actually foreign guns (at least before 1900). Still, there's nothing more pleasing to my eye than a finely built Long Rifle.
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Sharps Big 50, or Greener SxS You do know a Greener is a British gun, made in Birmingham?? And there's probably less than 10,000 total in the US even today.
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That's the Pennsylvania long Rifle to be exact. The case could be made we would not be here without it. As much as I love the Long Rifle and the pride of being an American, it shaped the technology of firearms for a couple of decades, but it just wasn't used in numbers sufficient to really change a war. It demonstratively dominated one battle I can think of, and affected a few more. Was brilliant in small units, but the reality is the guns that are responsible for the US still being here were actually foreign guns (at least before 1900). Still, there's nothing more pleasing to my eye than a finely built Long Rifle. Timothy Murphy's rifle changed one battle, and with it the course of a war and of the world.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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That's the Pennsylvania long Rifle to be exact. The case could be made we would not be here without it. As much as I love the Long Rifle and the pride of being an American, it shaped the technology of firearms for a couple of decades, but it just wasn't used in numbers sufficient to really change a war. It demonstratively dominated one battle I can think of, and affected a few more. Was brilliant in small units, but the reality is the guns that are responsible for the US still being here were actually foreign guns (at least before 1900). Still, there's nothing more pleasing to my eye than a finely built Long Rifle. I like that statement.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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This is in fun I think and no one is wrong, but, the M1 is American designed, built and won WWII using THE american cartridge. I dont think it was largely based on a foreign design and the people who built/desgned it were not hyphenated. My home county has a History with the long rifle and Bedford County Rifles are well known. Personally I like them better than a Garand. John C. Garand was Canadian...French Canadian even.
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There are lots of wannabe's but you still can't argue the Colt SAA. Nothing is more recognizable by more people in walks of life and every country in the world... ![[Linked Image]](http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/bridgershooters/handguns/124_3920_zps44f06ba4.jpg) absolutely the truth, and the parent of a lot of cartridge development since that doesn't surpass what the original did a 100 years ago.
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Regarding the arguments of the American Long Rifle, while it was an evolution of other designs (I'll let you guys argue which), the real technological leap wasn't so much the rifle as the ammunition; specifically the patched ball. Before the patched ball, you could have a rifle that was easy to load, but not very accurate, or a very accurate rifle, that was hard and slow to load.
Armies chose smoothbores with a slightly undersized ball because they could be loaded at over twice the speed of a rifle with a tight fitting ball. This made an expert who could load and fire a smoothbore flintlock as much as 7 shots per minute. But the smoothbore musket was rarely accurate beyond about 70 yards.
Rifles of the day were accurate to several hundred yards, but the work of pressing a ball down a rifled barrel meant 2-3 shots per minute at best.
The lubricated patched ball gave the American Long Rifle the accuracy of the rifle, and the loading speed of the smoothbore; that was a HUGE leap for any military unit...or any frontiersman.
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Mathew 22: 37-39
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That's the Pennsylvania long Rifle to be exact. The case could be made we would not be here without it. As much as I love the Long Rifle and the pride of being an American, it shaped the technology of firearms for a couple of decades, but it just wasn't used in numbers sufficient to really change a war. It demonstratively dominated one battle I can think of, and affected a few more. Was brilliant in small units, but the reality is the guns that are responsible for the US still being here were actually foreign guns (at least before 1900). Still, there's nothing more pleasing to my eye than a finely built Long Rifle. Timothy Murphy's rifle changed one battle, and with it the course of a war and of the world. It's a great story, but did it even happen? Most serious historians think it didn't happen. But let's say it did (I like to think it did). Even if that shot was never made, we were going to win Saratoga.
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