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backtobethel,

We probably neglected to tell you this, but all the good advice (from the true experts, not from me) is not free. It is now time to pay up. In order to do so, you are required to:
- Take and post some good pictures of the rifle when it arrives.
- Keep us apprised of how it shoots.
- Continue to take and post pictures if you decide to restore or refinish.
Not truly required, of course, but we do like to participate vicariously.

Gun Doc

You did fine at that price and if the time comes you want to sell you may even make a couple hundred. Especially so if it shoots well. If it does and you clean up the stock it is almost guaranteed.

Congrats on the rifle!! Let us know how it shoots for you!

Eric

Yeah, $1,000, including a Leupold--good price. Bottom metal looks clean.

Varmintguy gave excellent advice on correcting the rear sight mis-position. I might add if you don't have a vice, try this (takes another pair of hands):

After removing the elevator as VG instructed. lay the gun on carpet with your helper firmly holding it against the floor so the rifle cannot move, using a flattened piece of deer antler for the pusher, tap the rear sight out of the dovetail, remembering to go left to right to remove it.

You will not mar the metal with the antler and it is amazingly tough. You should have no issues with the sight being difficult to remove. Sights that have sat in the dovetail since new can be a bugger to remove sometimes. That is not the case with yours.

Enjoy that new rifle!

Thanks guys. I'll post some pics when I get it.

+1!

backtobethel, never said what the scope was beyond Leupold. With the med high rings and length I'm thinking it is a M8 6x36? The rear sight was put on backwards simply to keep it with the rifle, helluva lot better than an empty dovetail in my opinion. It looked like it might have cleared the scope but certainly not with the scope caps used. Looks like an honest gun to me, back then a lot of guys, ex military put military style slings on their rifles because they were taught to shoot with them. They also had the mindset that a gun was a tool and used as such, not going to any great pains to spare the stupid marks on them. With a 24" barrel that 270 should produce the kinda ballistics that built the 270's rep. $1000? looks to me like it will be well spent. That's an example of value in excess of the norm for greenbacks today. Goodluck. Magnum Man

FWIW, the military style sling on that particular rifle was put on backwards. The end that comprises the shooting loop, which can be adjusted to the individual to use as a shooting aid, should be on the front swivel. The tail piece, which adjusts the length of the sling for carrying, goes on the rear swivel. A properly installed military style sling will not mar the stock finish. A classic shooting sling for a '57 M70 might be a Whelan sling,or possibly a Brownell's Qwik-Set Latigo. Both have front loops that can be adjusted for size for use as a shooting sling. A nylon version of the Brownell's is the Outdoor Connections "Super Sling", or at least it used to be.

backtobethel, looking forward to nice pics of your rifle!

You done good! If you decide you are not happy with this gun I will take it off your hands! very best winpoor

Mr. backtobethel: Just wanted to congratulate you on your purchase. I believe that you will fall in love with this rifle. For about 30 plus years now, I've hunted almost exclusively with various pre-64 model 70s. Most have been either re-barreled or re-stocked or both. However about 10 years ago I acquired a standard grade .270. It is definitely not a collector with shortened stock with pad, missing rear sight and front sight hood. However, the action is all original. I gave the stock a re-finish job. The old Leupold 2-7 sets in a Redfield jr. mount. I think total weight is just under 8 3/4 lbs. I did re-bed it. It has become my most used rifle and has accounted for almost all my coyotes as well as occasional whitetail. It shoots very well. All I use is 130 Nosler BTs. Personally, I think many folks make way too big of a deal over weight. There is no doubt in my mind that a heavier rifle "holds" better, both on the bench and in the field, at least for me. I've contemplated putting a set of Talley aluminum one piece mount and rings on it to lessen the weight just a tad. If I were to use it for mountain hunts I'd probably do that. So again, congrats. I would go slow to make major changes like another stock. Put a good quality small power variable or fixed power 4 or 6x, shoot it, and go from there. H4831 has become somewhat a standard for the .270 for good reason. I know that's pretty old school thinking, but it has worked very well for me.

Well, finally picked up the rifle. I'm a sucker for period optics, so I scoped it up with a Hensoldt Dialytan in Buehler mounts that I've been holding for a Model 70. Not really happy with the sight blank, but it's all I had. I like the way the scope looks and, needless to say, I'm very happy with the rifle. I would say the metal is about 95% condition and the wood is about 85-90% (accounting for the scratches) with nice sharp checkering. Thanks again for everyone's input.







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Very nice and well bought....

My friend , you may not have knocked it out of ball park BUT you hit a triple on that one! My offer stands!! very best WinPoor

That's sweet and a .270 to boot.

Nice gun!

backtobethel,

In your original post, you stated:
"I'm seeking an all original gun in nice shooter/hunter condition."
IMO, you could hardly have ordered up a better one.

I remember the original scope was an M8 Leupold. What power? I might have stayed with that, but I'm not into period optics. Having said that, your choice certainly makes the combination look nice.

Glad you lost the sling, or if you keep it, at least put it on correctly. Don't loose track of that correct rear sight!

Keep us posted as to how it shoots.

Great looking rifle and IMO a very fair price. Shoot it an enjoy!

PS _ put he M8 back on!!!

backtobethel,
I don't think you done bad at all. The bluing looks good and I'll bet that stock would clean up nicely. Checkering looks good, too!