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Law enforcement cannot go 'out of business', it doesn’t have to worry about public disaffection or dissatisfaction like other businesses do. The role of police is to collect money and distribute force, authority, and sometimes violence, on behalf of the government...which is the 'only' clientele they have to please.

I have, far, far more times than I wrote a ticket. Most cops write warning tickets, or just give warnings. Some write everything. I know a couple of those and they are not well liked in the Department for their "black & white" view of the world.

Some agencies will not allow the officers to give warnings. That is something that needs to be addressed by the citizens to the politicians.

Please remember, it is YOUR department. Make your wishes known and not on an internet forum, but to the powers that be in your community.

Ed

Yes, they can "go out of business". At least "business as usual". Changes can happen, I've personally seen it in both the Alaska State Troopers and the Anchorage Police Department.

YOU are the key to putting an end to "business as usual".

Ed

You in the Albuquerque PD?

(Sorry - I couldn't resist!)

As with doctors who arent skilled, pharmacists who are dyslexic, and teachers who get too "chummy" with the kiddies, Police who abuse or bend their position of EXTREME power over those they interact with should be ferreted out with vigor.

The "10% as with any other profession" situation cant be tolerated. Police have FAR too much control in the ability to ruin days, weeks, bank accounts, and lives of the folks they interact with.

That 10% number should be reduced to 5%, and then 1%, and the force should make it part of their CAREER to do so. I think this is why some locations in the USA, probably smaller towns, have a more favorable view of their police force. They probably have more hand-on control over who gets hired and how they treat folks (AND VISA VERSA).

I respect every officer I interact with, and am raising my children to revere them as well. Every officer should look at their peers and think about that.

No one is in a better position to improve image and ferret out the bottom 10% than the officers themselves.

The red part seems to run more to town size. The smaller the town, the more of the ones that got stuffed into lockers. I know that it is a salary problem, but it is there. miles

"Now see my fist, they're about to F#ck you up"
Office Manuel Ramos
Fullerton California police department
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kelly_Thomas

"I"m tired of bashing 90 because of 10... "

The problem on this forum is that the "10" is a theoretical number that forum cops will ALL condemn.

But, when one of the "10" has a particular identity, most of them rush to his defense, or at a minimum give him the benefit of the doubt, when there is no doubt.

The "10" are mythical creatures that always will be found "Not in my A.O."

HAHAHA, no, just a simple okie cowman here, we got good coppers out this way.

Don't do stupid BS and you won't get stopped at all


Why don't you not screw up and avoid the whole issue?

Actually APD does, too.
Much of the problem seems to be an excess of idiot "victims" - although they occasionally screw up (that darned human factor!)

Seeing motorcycle cops pull people over for "BS" seatbelt infractions?

Dealing with perpetrators, they start with name dropping. My uncle is a cop" my neighbor is a cop" I would say-- "really that's nice, my son, his dad is a cop too. They would give me some crazy looks and try to figure out what I just said.

You'll stump em every time with that 'Jeopardy' like commentary Hammer.

Trying to relate motorcyclists with seatbelts is apples and oranges. If any of us are stupid enough to break the law we deserve to be called on it. If we just start ignoring your expired registration then we stop it all together and when your kid gets nabbed and you tell the police the plate number of the van the cop is going tell you all about how some dumbass complained about paying for it so they just gave up on it. Then all of a sudden you figure you figure out who the dumbass is.

Do you feel that way about gun laws too...?

Obviously no written test for AZ police.

Yeah...that's it, 'vehicle registration' was implemented by the government so just in case your kid gets nabbed and you give the police the plate number...they can catch the bad guy.

laffin'

Working South Central L.A. in the mid 80's we would roll to an EMS "fight;assault" call with PD on scene and ask what do we have?
PD: "NVNNHI"

lol

Amish guy,
"Yep,ociffer, Im drunk as a stunk.
But I aaint drivin. Talk to the horsh."

"Horses don't fit in jail cells but you
will. Hands behind your back."
True story.