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When I get to the pearly gates, as he prepares to cast me into hell, I'll do my best to grab hold of him and kick his ass for not making himself evident to me. God never fails to disappoint.

Why not challenge Him to do that now, instead of waiting?

I think it's funny how many of you losers are gonna burn in hell.




Dave

Don't worry about me and the HJIC. We'll be A-ok.




Travis

What about all the folks that died before Jesus? Do they automatically gain entrance, or did they all go straight to hell or spend eternity in some sort of limbo?

Yep, and surrounded by His followers all day, with nothing to do except stroke each others harps and listen to his followers talk about how FFAAAAABBULOUSSSS it is to be in His presence. For Eternity.

I'm used to Christians stroking my harp.





Travis

Please consider listening to John the Baptist, Jesus, and the disciples he chose. You can go crazy trying to make sense out of Paul. He runs around in circles and judges and gripes. Jesus didn't ever mention "oh by the way I'll send someboby else who will seem to be a Roman agent, hiding behind a claim of conversion". Paul fits the pattern of a perjurer. I've seen it many times in court. A perjurer will admit to most of the facts, but make small changes or additions (lies) that turn the whole case around. Jesus and John both preached salvation through repentence. John very clearly told some folks to bring forth fruits of repentence when he detected their insincerity. Jesus very clearly said that the law was in effect until Heaven and earth pass away. Jesus said of men "you shall know them by their fruits". If you read Paul, you might want to be skeptical about this predestination of the chosen and elect unless you can find where his testimony is supported by Jesus. I believe Paul's letters are his but I don't accept them on the level with the gospels and the accounts of people that Jesus publicly chose. If you are a church member, look around. You see someone like Paul in the congregation, divisive and controlling.

4- a correction if I may. All are called, few are chosen.

Travis- we fervently pray you and the leopard will be there.

..but Ingwe will be dropping the leopard spandex cause God is a God of mercy.

Oh, that's not my idea of Heaven. That's the idea I get from all of His self-professed followers.

A valid question.

Steelhead's comment is accurate, to a degree, though flippant.

I'm far more concerned about my "three score and ten"; being a good husband, a good father, a good friend, and a good man. Those things I can control. What comes after, is beyond my control. Yes, yes, I know some believe they can control that by uttering an incantation, but they really can't. They can hedge a bet, but that's it, and they can believe. What, to me, is more important is what I do with the "three score and ten".

I know what I hope comes next, but I don't "know" it any more or less than any true believer of any faith that swears that they "know" because they read something they believe.

All true. Being a good husband, father, and man are all magnificent goals. You do, however, control one more thing. If you believe God and do what He says, and it is not an incantation, you will go to heaven. The "sinners prayer" is not found in the Bible. Acts 2:38 tells us what we have to do. God calls us all. Your response to that call is what you control.

I know that I am new to this site, but I have read a lot. I think that you are a lot closer than you think.