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Jonah 1:15-17King James Version (KJV)

"15 So they took up Jonah, and cast him forth into the sea: and the sea ceased from her raging.

16 Then the men feared the Lord exceedingly, and offered a sacrifice unto the Lord, and made vows.

17 Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights."

Neat interpretation tho ringman..nothing gets lost in translation i'm sure.

Children of satan are more dangerous than young tapeworms, or the brainwashed of islamic terrorists.

You still refuse to answer the question directly: who were you accusing?

I was elk hunting once in Colorado when a blizzard hit. A couple lost on the mountain i was hunting on spent the night in their horses an survived it.

rosco1,

Why do you try to disparage the story? There is no interpretation. I accept as though it was a story you or anyone else told me.

If God is God He could an did prepare a "great fish" and whether Jonah was dead or alive makes no difference God spewed him out three days later.

It sounds like the hunters survived but the horses didn't. In the Jonah story all survived.

Anyone can exhibit these traits at any given time, pagans or christians, myself included. We need to rely on the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit to overcome with any consistency. When we are outside the will of God, we look just like anyone. We are all fallen, some saved from it, some not. But still, it's a daily battle we can win. Regardless, we are forgiven.

*In retrospect, that's probably not worded exactly right. Mercy please.

Romans 11:8

As it is written, “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day.”

2 Corinthians 4:3-4

And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing. In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Ephesians 2:2

2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—

Romans 8:7-8

7 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. 8 Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

Matthew 13:15

For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.'

Well at least you admit you want non-believers to burn rather than be saved, which I've noted among who call themselves Christian but rarely hear admitted.

Does God want people to be saved, or not? Is there a definitive answer to that? Because I've seen plenty of contradictory scripture thrown out about it, and I'd like to hear your thoughts.

So, instead of answering the question directly, you continue to quote Scripture and speak in riddles?

SMH.

There is no evidence from the text they qualified as "Children of Satan". But it's good to know you approve murdering children over the slightest insult.

It's not a riddle, you've just got your hackles up thinking I was referring to you. I've already explained there's no need to feel slighted from me.

I have no hackles up at all, and I have not inferred that you were referencing me or anyone else specifically. I stated that if it were me, that you were off base. You certainly have made it clear that you were referencing someone (or several), though, and I've asked you several times to simply speak that plainly. You continually refuse to do so.

Your take on the scripture I posted and calling it a "riddle" does tend to substantiate 1 Corinthians 1:18

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

If I was, what would change? The message remains the same regardless, so it would be irrelevant unless you had a design for my answer.

You refuse to speak plainly in answer to a question. That's the proof, and there's no riddle there.

Wrong. You refuse to speak plainly, and that answer hasn't changed.

He prefers all be saved, but if they wont listen to dust off yourself from them.

I guess He figures freedom of choice id pretty important. You feel otherwise? Isis thinks coercion is mobetter.

Sorry friend, at this we will have to agree to either allow one another quarter or not. No offense intended, but judging by your actions and apparent agitation I simply find it suspicious that you are obsessed with who I might be referencing. I think it's a distraction at best, a trap at worst, and either way irrelevant to the content of the dialog.

Again, not wishing offense, but that's my take on it.

If I understand this verse literally it tells me that God made a whole bunch of people pre destined by him to be non believers blind and deaf to his word. Did he do this just so he could have a bunch of folks he could toss in the fire. Wouldn't that make him a psychopath.

bushrat



You anthropomorphising God. God says He made the wicked for the day of destruction. That does not make him a psychopath. It makes Him the potter and us the pot. Most of us can't humble ourselves. That is THE prerequisite to accepting God.

I make a lot of muzzle brakes. Some I like and some I don't. One difference between God and me is I can't make my works alive. He can and does! We dispose of our rejects in different ways.