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So, I got a call tonight, from a well known poster, who bought a rifle from me back in November 2014. He said that he finally got around to shooting the rifle that he bought from me. The rifle was an H&R Trapdoor 45-70 carbine, which I believe was previously unfired, or at least fired very little by the looks of things.
Anyway, he said that the first shot was fine, but on the 2nd shot, the action came open. He then asked me what I planned to do about it?? He feels that it is my responsibility to refund his money after 4 months?? He says that I purposely sold him a defective rifle?? Really? I told him that I would gladly have refunded his money after a reasonable amount of time if he was not happy, but I am not responsible after 4 months.
I have no idea what ammo he was using (Buffalo Bore?) in a 140 year old rifle design that is well known as a very weak action in the first place. A little research would show that this was a common problem with these rifles, and there are fixes available.
So, am I responsible after 4 months??
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I guess it doesn't hurt for him to try. He has nothing to lose.
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I would say no, even a retail store wouldn't honor anything after 4 months!
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I would say no, after 4 months he!! no. I give a 3 day inspection (non firing) time limit starting from the day it is delivered, which is verified by the tracking number.
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After he accepts rifle through FFL background check, the rifle is his. No returns, no refunds. Any issues he can go to OEM or nearest gunsmith. Same as all gun shops.
Beware of thieves, scammers and dishonest members on the "Fire" classifieds. Ya there is a thief here too. Whatever!!
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If you manufactured the rifle, you would have some interest in the issue. What ammo he shot in it is out of your control and since you didn't make the gun Craigster needs to pursue a differ course with this.
You have absolutely no responsibility in this, wish him well with a clear conscience...
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I don't want this to be strictly my side of the story, so I PM'd him a link to this thread.
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Had the same thing happen with another douchenozzle on here. Held it forever, then all of a sudden it doesn't shoot and it's my problem. Sorry, but no dice!
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It's a known problem with all HR Handis. I've had a brand-new 243 do that too. It can be fixed quite easily with a little buffing/polishing.
No, it's not your problem now.
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It's not a Handi Rifle, it's an H&R copy of the 1873 Trapdoor Springfield 45/70 carbine. A much weaker design than the Handi Rifle even.
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His responsibility in the receipt of the firearm was to verify it's integrity and function within a reasonable time , NOT 120 days ; End of story !
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the trapdoor is also a easy fix! refer him to me. I might be interested if he wants to get out of it.
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I have no idea what ammo he was using (Buffalo Bore?) in a 140 year old
This says it all right here, at least to me. You have no control over that, and obviously shooting Buffalo Bore, or juiced up handloads in that trapdoor action is a recipe for disaster. I'm not saying that's what happened, but how are you to know? You've got a clear conscience.
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If you sold the rifle in "as-is" condition and offered a clearly defined inspection period with the option to return the item prior to him/her filing the proper paperwork through their FFL you have nothing to worry about.
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Since you are a member primarily to use the classifieds, you might want to give your methods extra scrutiny.
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Since you are a member primarily to use the classifieds, you might want to give your methods extra scrutiny. Hey PAL, you might want to take another look at my post history before you open your mouth.
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