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Cut fences, livestock run ragged, horses run thru wire by low choppers All happened before.

I can't wait!!!!!

I see the Express to KOOK-A-MANGA is rapidly filling up....

Black hawks fly from Swift to Mabry in Austin over our place every day. It's the low ones that cause issues. Hell even star flight won't land out here anymore. They have predetermined LZ's now. Ambulance had to transport Wifey about 5 miles to LZ for her last ride back in January. I was suprised that the chopper got to the hospital 5 minutes before I did! LOL! And I pretty much drove the speed limit. Didn't wanna hit a hog.

Just who in the frick do these people think they are? Isn't it enough that the government has over the years confiscated sometimes at gun point, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of acres for massive military posts and bases scattered around the country? Now, they are saying that isn't enough and it is necessary to further infringe on private property rights?

I would be beyond pissed if some of my cows got out or if my deer changed their patterns because of these idiots running around in the dark.

From your citation:

"The Third Amendment is among the least cited sections of the U.S. Constitution.[14] In the words of Encyclopedia Britannica, "as the history of the country progressed with little conflict on American soil, the amendment has had little occasion to be invoked."[15] As of 2014, no major Supreme Court decision has used the amendment as its primary basis.[2][3]"


The Second Amendment seemed pretty clear as well until the S.C. got involved. I doubt that a "clear reading" ruling with a 9-0 majority would emanate from ANY S.C. that has ever sat.

Do you think the U.S. Military should be able to use private property for training missions if the owner objects?

I'm not claiming that your post infers that.

Knew a rancher out on the Pecos in west Texas lost about two dozen sheep to a hot shot F4 pilot Last one to bite the deck from Bergstrom AFB. We all got a good chuckle. AF told him to file claim on lost sheep. About 8 months later some 2nd loowie showed up wanting to see "bodies"! He told em what was left was "down by the creek! Good luck!!! Coyotes did a number on the remains too!"

How about if we amend that statement to include "Without Permission"... ?

I may not be around to "object". Or, I may be asleep.

Owning private property has it's rights. One of them is to post the property against trespass, and have that posting have legal clarity and upstanding in a court of law.

I've seen that as well. Not even too distantly in the past. 3-4 years ago.

That concept is dying quickly, in the Homeland. You are merely a tenant of Homeland soil, living there and paying rent/taxes to the Owner/Gov't for the privilege of being allowed to keep and improve that property for the benefit of the Owner/Gov't. They will use that property as they see fit, when they choose, and if you object, the property will be taken from you and reappropriated to those who are more "patriotic" to the Homeland.

"How about if we amend that statement to include "Without Permission"... ?"

No........ the article claims they are asking County Commissioners in Texas to "invite" them. I don't know any Counties that own enough property to be of any use to the exercise. That seems to mean the Commissioners would give them permission to use private land in the County, thereby circumventing the owner.

But, since Commissioners have to run for office every four years, that might not fly.

Since there basically is no public land in Texas, it is hard to imagine what kind of permission the county commissioners could give that would be worth the paper it was written on.

The Kings men. Hold your tongue, knave.

" worth the paper it was written on. "

And THAT would stop the Feds... ?

Like Treaties????

I'll bet a lotta people forget their phone number if they don't use it for four years.

Probably not far off the truth...

I trust our government, and especially this administration less than I do a used car salesman. MUCH less.

I'd appreciate a cite.

Here's one, apart from the wiki one we've already seen.

http://usconservatives.about.com/od/conservativepolitics101/qt/Third-Amendment-Bill-of-Rights.htm

The Third Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects American citizens from being forced to use their homes to board members of the U.S. military. The amendment does not extend the same privilege to American citizens during times of war. The law's relevance diminished greatly after the American Civil War and is largely archaic in the 21st Century. During the American Revolution, colonists were frequently forced to house British soldiers on their property during times of war and peace. Very often, these colonists would find themselves being forced to put up and feed entire regiments of the Crown, and the soldiers weren't always good house guests. Article III of the Bill of Rights was created to do away with the troublesome British law, known as the Quartering Act, that permitted this practice.

In the 20th century, however, members of the U.S. Supreme Court have referenced the Third Amendment in privacy rights cases. In most recent cases, however, the Ninth and Fourteenth amendments are cited more frequently and are more applicable to defending Americans' right to privacy.

Although it is occasionally the subject of far-fetched lawsuits, there have been a few cases in which the Third Amendment played an important role. For that reason, the amendment has never suffered a significant challenge for repeal. For conservatives generally, and cultural conservatives in particular, the Third Amendment serves as a reminder of this nation's early struggles against oppression.

"Home" in numerous cases has been extended to the curtilage and beyond to include property when the 4th Amendment cases against search and seizure are in question.

If you want full citations on those, I'd suggest taking a few classes on Constitutional law and property law. Start your research with "home" under the 4A, and go from there.

This referenced the very specific 3rd amendment. But thanks for the suggestion.