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That video looked like an execution. Cop was much to calm during and after shooting.

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Another Taser incident came in September of 2013, when Police Officer Michael Slager jolted a man named Mario Givens as he was led from his home in his underwear. A witness named Yolanda Whitaker contended that Givens had done nothing to provoke the tasing and Slager was investigated for use of excessive force. The complaint was deemed unfounded.
Givens had actually called in a burglary report.


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I'm thinking I wish a taser looked and felt nothing like a handgun in the hand. I'm thinking that once you get used to pulling out a handgun-shaped object from a holster, pointing it at someone, and pulling the trigger without them dying it becomes so much easier for that to happen with a handgun when you're rushed, wound up, and not thinking right.

Were ya ever rushed driving into work, and then made some poor driving decision to save like at most a few seconds and then immediately felt stupid for doing whatever you did after the fact?

Closest I personally came to killing someone that I know of was in Africa, when I was driving a Landrover down a horribly-paved road for the vaccination team. Trying to get around a truck at speed I came like an inch or two from taking out a woman who was walking down the side of the road carrying a heavily-loaded pot on her head.

Clearly that Cop weren't thinking right when he pulled that gun and started pulling a trigger to solve a problem. Then RUNNING over to grab the taser in that "OH F&&K!" moment when he realizes the guy is really shot. A moment's panic that will cost him the rest of his life.

But, he's guilty, same as I would have been if I had killed that lady.

I'll bet he really wishes he would have missed right now.

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If he's too damn stupid to tell the difference between his pistol and his TAZER, even in the heat of the moment, then he shouldn't be carrying either of em'...!

Looks like he knew damn well what he was doing. He murdered the guy.



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Originally Posted by antlers
If he's too damn stupid to tell the difference between his pistol and his TAZER, even in the heat of the moment, then he shouldn't be carrying either of em'...!

Looks like he knew damn well what he was doing. He murdered the guy.



Yeah it's kinda hard to rip off 8-9 shots out of a tazer.

He knew what he was doing. His goose is cooked because of it.


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Yup. That boy should have had a job sitting behind a computer somewhere, talking on the phone. He didn't have a very successful career in law enforcement.


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I was under the impression that his initial statement was that he used deadly force because the man had taken the taser away( AFTER DEPOYMENT) and he was afraid it would be used against him.
How a deployed taser dragging behind a suspect 30 feet away is going to used is beyond me.


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Originally Posted by antlers
If he's too damn stupid to tell the difference between his pistol and his TAZER, even in the heat of the moment, then he shouldn't be carrying either of em'...!

Looks like he knew damn well what he was doing. He murdered the guy.


I put a bullet through a wall once, when "dry firing" a revolver, see I had gotten my subconscious used to pulling a trigger without consequences. Likewise I've locked myself out of places more'n once because, without thinking about it, some object in my hand or pocket subconsciously felt like my bundle of keys.

According to the guy who recorded the video, both the Cop and perp/victim had been down struggling on the ground just moments before. Both of these individuals were likely stressed, neither thinking right..

Even if the Cop is a stone-cold psychopath, he'd have to be pretty fuggin stupid to take the risk of shooting someone at that place and time.

Best case scenario here.... the Cop had tasered other people before, maybe already had tasered this guy before they went down, next step he pulls out the next object, points it at the guy, and without thinking it through starts pulling a trigger to solve a problem.

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Yup. That boy should have had a job sitting behind a computer somewhere, talking on the phone. He didn't have a very successful career in law enforcement.


Maybe he will do better in his next career...
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Originally Posted by ringworm
I was under the impression that his initial statement was that he used deadly force because the man had taken the taser away( AFTER DEPOYMENT) and he was afraid it would be used against him.
How a deployed taser dragging behind a suspect 30 feet away is going to used is beyond me.


I figure that was him trying to talk his way out of it after the fact.


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Furthermore, if that videotape didn't exist, and there were no witnesses...even despite the forensic evidence...that murderin' prick wouldn't be in the trouble that he's in now. The evidence would be suppressed, or 'changed', so that the municipality and the department that he works for wouldn't be cast in a negative light, and more importantly...they wouldn't have to fork over millions of dollars like they're gonna have to now. And 'those' decisions would come from up high.


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Yeah it's kinda hard to rip off 8-9 shots out of a tazer.


What? You don't keep using the trigger of a taser until the guy goes down?


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Maybe it's just me...

But I kinda get the impression that the cop just wasn't "quite right" in the head.

That can be a long or short term situation, but that's the impression I have.


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Originally Posted by antlers
Furthermore, if that videotape didn't exist, and there were no witnesses...even despite the forensic evidence...that murderin' prick wouldn't be in the trouble that he's in now. The evidence would be suppressed, or 'changed', so that the municipality and the department that he works for wouldn't be cast in a negative light, and more importantly...they wouldn't have to fork over millions of dollars like they're gonna have to now. And 'those' decisions would come from up high.


Just like all the other guys shot eight times in the back, right?


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Furthermore, if that videotape didn't exist, and there were no witnesses...even despite the forensic evidence...that murderin' prick wouldn't be in the trouble that he's in now.


Well, one thing's for sure, that brief video is now eternal: Gonna be replayed by every collection of Leftist radicals and Leftist bleeding hearts, gonna be replayed endlessly by the likes of the Jacksons and Sharpstons of the World, and oughta be replayed at some point at every Cop training academy for the foreseeable future.

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Reading these posts has been an education in a very bad sense. I didn't realize there were people that would publically show much ignorance and hatred they had for people that are different than themselves. People that hate Jews, Catholics, and/or people of different skin color are totally amazing in a most horrible way. I truly hope I never have to meet you. Your views are totally disgusting.
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Furthermore, if that videotape didn't exist, and there were no witnesses...even despite the forensic evidence...that murderin' prick wouldn't be in the trouble that he's in now. The evidence would be suppressed, or 'changed', so that the municipality and the department that he works for wouldn't be cast in a negative light, and more importantly...they wouldn't have to fork over millions of dollars like they're gonna have to now. And 'those' decisions would come from up high.

Just like all the other guys shot eight times in the back, right?

Pedro Oregon was shot 12 times "from behind" by members of the Houston Police Department while he was lying face down on the floor of his apartment with his arms and hands out in front of him. They had raided his apartment on a drug tip. They didn't find any drugs in the apartment or on or in the dead mans body. None of the officers went to jail. I lived down there at the time this happened. For you to deny that stuff like what I posted 'does' happen is not surprising.


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If he's too damn stupid to tell the difference between his pistol and his TAZER, even in the heat of the moment, then he shouldn't be carrying either of em'...!


I didn't say he thought it was his tazer.....

...I don't think "thought" really entered into it....

...the Cop had just been down wrestling with the guy, the tazer had already come out and been deployed.

My take; the Cop wasn't thinking, he was reacting, which is what people do in such circumstances. In this case his de-facto "training" was that you pull an object from your belt, point it at the problem, and pull a trigger to solve it.

Then he compounded his error by lying about it, moving said tazer being a part of that lying.

In retrospect the best he could have done after the fact would have been to say "Damn, I fugged up, I'm guilty, I'm so sorry" and thrown himself on the mercy of the court.

Might have been out in what? five or ten?

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He should be given just one round, save himself and everybody a lot of trouble.

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When he goes back for the taser the second officer was not on the scene.
He turns after cuffing and jogs back, picks up the taser and heads back to the shot man.
When he sees the second officer he, nonchalantly drops the taser near the body.
I can't say why, I can only say that in my 8 years in LE I can absolutely tell you that this action, in and of itself, is grounds for termination and criminal charges. It is tampering with evidence.
After a few seconds the 2nd officer says something to him.
They both look towards the taser and then he picks up the taser and reholsters it in its holster on the LEFT side.
No wires are attached, the yellow black stripped cartridge is not on the unit or it couldn't be reholstered.
The physical facts will follow like this.
At such and such time and date officer 1 attempted to effect an arrest on suspect. A physical altercation ensued and the officer used his taser to gain compliance. The suspect was temporarily incapacitated. Upon gaining physical control the office dropped the taser to the ground to handcuff the suspect and quick point the suspect rose to his feet and exited stage left.
Officer then drewchis sidearm and without uttering verbal commands fired shots, striking and dropping the suspect.
The officer then went to the suspect, handcuffed him and returned to the initial site of the confrontation, retrieve bed the taser and brought to to the suspect where he dropped it beside the suspects body.
A second officer arrived, knowing a shooting had ocoured (blue gloves) and requested a kit (trauma kit). While bent over the suspect visually examining him he says something to officer 1 who picks up the taser a d reholsters it.
Upon arrival on the scene, officer 3, supervisorremoves the taser from the holster and retains it.


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