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Wasnt a 351 Cleveland also available in the 69-70 mach 1's? 70
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at what point does all this cutting and replacing lead to problems with affecting the end value of the car after restoration?? Your work actually looks awesome to me. The biggest one I would worry about is the new shock towers and getting them back to original position.
if your going to put 10's of thousands into a frame off resto I would want a better donor car.
lastly and this is just an opinion question. I have always been a chevy guy, loved the chevelles. but recently the 67 and 68 model mustangs have really grown on me. as far as original build quailty were these better cars than the chevys? For some reason the mustangs seem simpler and better put together.
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Dave, I must say, you might have found the perfect woman.
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Dave, I must say, you might have found the perfect woman. Ain't she sumthin? Lmao!
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Here's what I've cut off this car so far. Before I'm done, this pile will grow about 4X this size, then we'll take the pile to the scrap yard. dave ,looks like you making chicken salad out of chicken chit!!
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45 years ago I was absolutely NUTS about the Mach 1 Mustang...
Never have owned one. Am sure enjoying this. Continue!
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Guy down the road from me has 2 Boss Mustangs in his garage. And it looks like he's working on his version of Black Betty too. Every once in a while as I drive by he'll have the door up and you can see them there. I'm a Ford guy and have about zero use for a Camero but my friend's dad just had one put together for him. I think he built it to replace the Yenko he sold a few years back (which was showroom mint and offered to me for 45k) Rumor has it - it scoots pretty good.....
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Dave, I must say, you might have found the perfect woman. Ain't she sumthin? Lmao! A little talkative?
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Cutting out all the bad junk on a shock tower. These are all the bad pieces. And these ate the replacement pieces. Burn the patches in. These 2 spots get coveted by the inner fender aprons. [img] http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e...1/IMG_20150429_162400253_zpsy5sayqxd.jpg[/img] Pretty happy to be able to save this piece of the car.
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Dave,
It may be a bit personal so no answer is OK, but I assume you do this work at a quoted hourly rate and keep daily logs of your hours? The guy I bought my Mach 1 from in San Diego had a lot of work done by a local very high end builder of customs and resto's and the daily logs backing the bill have hours down for spending time on-line buying parts. Makes sense as the employee is getting paid while doing so. Just curious if this is the norm.
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I am anxious to see this one when its done ND! But I think you still need AJ to help out and spice things up.... But then I would come over with brews in-hand and nothing would get done from then on.
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Dave,
It may be a bit personal so no answer is OK, but I assume you do this work at a quoted hourly rate and keep daily logs of your hours? The guy I bought my Mach 1 from in San Diego had a lot of work done by a local very high end builder of customs and resto's and the daily logs backing the bill have hours down for spending time on-line buying parts. Makes sense as the employee is getting paid while doing so. Just curious if this is the norm. I don't think ND uses the internet.....
Do not feed the bear!
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What is this inter net? Is catch fish?
I will eventually add that research and part ordering time.
But these customers getting in early with me are getting a nice rate and no hours clicked for that stuff.
Rate will be adjusted accordingly as I improve efficiency through my product selection and process refinement.
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I think it's a good thing that car didn't hit a very deep pothole before you got your hands on it...
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I'm sure I've seen a worse start of a car, I just can't remember where! I can't believe all the work you're doing Dave and it's inspiring! Keep it up man, this thread rocks!
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Cutting holes in the shock towers was pretty standard with the group I ran with. It was about the only way to lube the upper A-arm bushings. I never cared for it though and thought it looked like crap, especially when cut with a torch like the ones on this car were. Glad to see you're fixing them.
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You know, I'm soon 45 yrs old. I can't remember when I stopped believing in magical stuff like easter bunny, tooth fairy, Santa, etc. But its been quite a while. I cannot for the life of me begin to speculate exactly what it was that held the front of this car attached to the main body. I'm stumped, I really am. Magic? I don't know how else to explain it. It had to be magic. Here we go diving into that was thought to be the "strong side" of this front end. Surprise! The inner rocker plate is bad too. Peeling the onion.... Well, I can look at the other side for inspiration I guess. [img] http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e...G_20150501_131958306_HDR_zpsx8tiq4ac.jpg[/img] The real discouraging part is that my assessments have been off by quite a bit. I had originally just purchased a front outer section of this RH front frame rail. The bumper bracket interface, below the battery tray. Later I decided I needed a full length outer plate for this frame rail.... Now I'm wondering if I should have ordered a complete fraim rail weldment like I did for the LH side.
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Like I said, The Alchemist is turning rust into gold.
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Can u return it and buy the complete rail?
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I may have to. I see now that my outer frame plate is a full inch too short in overall length.
What a joke.
I will cut the front and rear sections of the frame open and see is repair sections are feasable. If it looks like a good option I will cut this outer frame plate, turn it into 2 repair sections.
If it looks like a crappy option, I will order another complete frame rail.
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