The whole legal process with this BS,, ''a grand jury'' blahblah ALL of this kind of BS needs to end. POS got what he had coming, THE END , his famery gotz something to say > put their ass in jail for raising a POS.
The whole legal process with this BS,, ''a grand jury'' blahblah ALL of this kind of BS needs to end. POS got what he had coming, THE END , his famery gotz something to say > put their ass in jail for raising a POS.
The whole legal process with this BS,, ''a grand jury'' blahblah ALL of this kind of BS needs to end. POS got what he had coming, THE END , his famery gotz something to say > put their ass in jail for raising a POS.
I've said it several times here, if the POlice traced each and every firearm 'these type' crooks have 90+% would be stolen. < Mostly stolen from crackers who gone to work.
Just like bicycles, I mentioned a friend of a friend who is a walmart manager, they quietly passed along the question, 'Has anybody ever seen an african-american buy a bicycle' ?? Answer NO, not one cashier/shelf stocker/manager/nobody had ever seen an AA buy one.
There was a joke in ft. walton beach, Fl. , what's little Demeiatrious getting for Christmas? >Your Bike.....LOL
The uselessness of having to actually "kill" a human being because they have little enough sense to threaten people with a fake gun? I'd be mad too! ....and then there is the stupidity of expecting to pull off an armed robbery with a fake gun.....IN TEXAS!!!???
I was born and raised within 150 miles of Houston. I've lived, worked and "played" in Houston. Houstonians "CARRY GUNS"!!!! License or not!!!
I won't wish death on anybody, but if anybody ever deserved it, he did!
Risky to rob a group of people in Texas. After the rash of church shootings my church called a meeting to discuss security. I always carry. But I was surprised at the number of men and women who carry at church. Hasbeen
I'm just waiting for the brain trust in Houston to come up with a narrative in support of the notion that the shooter committed a crime of any sort. It won't be rational, I'm sure, but I fully expect it.
Risky to rob a group of people in Texas. After the rash of church shootings my church called a meeting to discuss security. I always carry. But I was surprised at the number of men and women who carry at church. Hasbeen
The retired cop who took down a church shooter in White Settlement, TX? Awesome! There was another church shooting in Texas that was brought to a screeching halt by armed security people, I just don't remember where it was.
I was recommending a good Mexican restaurant to a visiting Police Detective from New Jersey. Told him even though it was on the West Side he shouldn’t worry.
“I’m not worried” he said “I have a gun.”
I can only guess that is a big deal where that guy works.
I suspect that ain’t that old guy’s first shooting event.
Who else would go through the pockets of a dead guy he just shot to recover small change.
I think he shot him because he was pi$$ed off and then was pi$$ed off all over again when the gun he might have taken turned out to be fake. PO’d too that he had just incurred legal hassles.
I was recommending a good Mexican restaurant to a visiting Police Detective from New Jersey. Told him even though it was on the West Side he shouldn’t worry.
“I’m not worried” he said “I have a gun.”
I can only guess that is a big deal where that guy works.
LOL. Yep, like who doesn't.
Reminds me of my uncle's visit back in the late 1960s, along with my aunt and my two cousins. He was a uniformed cop in Indiana, but back then it was still quite illegal for him to even be in possession of his revolver while in the state of NY, let alone having it loaded in his glove compartment, which he did.
But as you enter NYC on the highway, and seek to find your way to Long Island, it can sometimes be confusing for the unitiated, and they ended up taking the wrong exit and ending up in the worst part of Harlem, trying to find the entrance ramp back onto the highway. They were all getting pretty nasty treatment from the locals as they were driving through.
No pretrial diversion, pardon, parole, or early release from the graveyard! He saved the taxpayers a pile of money on welfare payments and the costs to feed, clothe and warehouse a career criminal as well! The city should at least buy the guy a couple of boxes of good ammo!
The reason they want him to go through the criminal justice system is to avoid setting a precedent for people doing likewise in the future. The government likes to maintain a monopoly on force, no matter how justified and lawful it was.
The reason they want him to go through the criminal justice system is to avoid setting a precedent for people doing likewise in the future. The government likes to maintain a monopoly on force, no matter how justified and lawful it was.
They must make clear that such signs of independence and self reliance are never free no matter how clearly legal; one must always bend the knee to the higher power of the state.
The reason they want him to go through the criminal justice system is to avoid setting a precedent for people doing likewise in the future. The government likes to maintain a monopoly on force, no matter how justified and lawful it was.
They must make clear that such signs of independence and self reliance are never free no matter how clearly legal; one must always bend the knee to the higher power of the state.
I’m sure the cops wanna give him a Community Service Award. Hence the need to talk to him. This should encourage some to pursue other occupations than robbing the public. A happy ending.
Saw a version that showed the shooting to completion. Was some stuff in it that looked a little bad.
Kinda stuff that were I King, I'd question him on and suggest "maybe you shouldn't have?" Then forget about it. Prosecutors don't always see thing the same.
I just saw online somewhere that the shooters attorney has contacted the Houston police
Probably a very good idea to lawyer up. Some ambitious liberal assistant DA with lace on his drawers just might see giving the guy a ration of grief as a career stepping stone.
I wonder what most of the people on the Campfire would have done in real time...
I have not sat in a restaurant without an optimal self defense position in 20+ years. Second nature anymore. Same with the ATM... or inside a bank... parking a car. Hell, I even carry when I go to the Doctor or Dentist.
100% good shoot. Waited until he could draw without being seen and smoked the bad guy.
Don’t bring a BB gun and no skills to a real gunfight.
A bleeding heart leftist might decide, however, that the extra shots while he was clearly down and incapacitated converted a good shoot into a murder because, who know, paramedics could have saved him before those last few shots, he could have been rehabilitated, gone to college, and cured cancer. But I think the shooter deserves the key to the city.
100% good shoot. Waited until he could draw without being seen and smoked the bad guy.
Don’t bring a BB gun and no skills to a real gunfight.
A bleeding heart leftist might decide, however, that the extra shots while he was clearly down and incapacitated converted a good shoot into a murder because, who know, paramedics could have saved him before those last few shots, he could have been rehabilitated, gone to college, and cured cancer. But I think the shooter deserves the key to the city.
He should definitely not report to the police.
With the photos of him and his truck, he will be found, for sure. Lawyering up and getting ready for the coming legal and civil battles is what he needs to do, unfortunately. He needs a “go fund me” account for his legal fees.
The uselessness of having to actually "kill" a human being because they have little enough sense to threaten people with a fake gun? I'd be mad too! ....and then there is the stupidity of expecting to pull off an armed robbery with a fake gun.....IN TEXAS!!!???
I was born and raised within 150 miles of Houston. I've lived, worked and "played" in Houston. Houstonians "CARRY GUNS"!!!! License or not!!!
I won't wish death on anybody, but if anybody ever deserved it, he did!
Can remember seeing one of the Houston stations interview with an HPD officer, a couple years after the Luby shooting when the push for carry laws was heating up. Interview, surprisingly, was conducted on the Loop 610 feeder road during rush hour and the reporter was asking the officer what he thought about letting the public legally carry concealed weapons. He pointed to the traffic and said " See all those cars? There's a pistol in every one of them."
100% good shoot. Waited until he could draw without being seen and smoked the bad guy.
Don’t bring a BB gun and no skills to a real gunfight.
A bleeding heart leftist might decide, however, that the extra shots while he was clearly down and incapacitated converted a good shoot into a murder because, who know, paramedics could have saved him before those last few shots, he could have been rehabilitated, gone to college, and cured cancer. But I think the shooter deserves the key to the city.
He should definitely not report to the police.
thats the problem in this country .. democrats have given more rights to criminals than to law abiding citizens
"They must make clear that such signs of independence and self reliance are never free no matter how clearly legal; one must always bend the knee to the higher power of the state."
This has become the norm across the board. Authorities assume they have the right to restrict your actions, abuse their official powers for ideological ends, limit what you may do with your own property, even your own body. Sadly, many grown adults, not just children, accept this all as reasonable governance protecting society. ( The Social Contract.) Socialism stopped creeping long ago.
Pretty sure every homicide goes before a grand jury in TX, no matter the circumstances.
Looks good to me. Hopefully he is in the clear. I still recall the pharmacist in Oklahoma who got fugked when he killed an armed robber.
Yeah, me too. NOW......recall that the guy shot the first robber, chased after the second robber. Then returned, grabbed a second gun and shot the first robber again No. 1 - Neither you nor I were there to actually witness the event No. 2 - robber #1 was neutralized (I didn't say dead!), why swap firearms and shoot again No. 3 - was robber #1 surrendering when the pharmacist plugged him again?
Lotta she-eye-tee going on there that can't be determined by that video. Was he right or wrong? I dunno....and I won't presume to say who got shagged the hardest!
IIRC the fact that the pharmacist changed guns is where the court says he crossed the line between "self defense" and "murder". Again, "I dunno?".
I have a few takeaways. First, the female reporter stated the police want to talk to a man who shot "a robbery suspect". Maybe it's a distinction without a difference; but, as the video is pretty clear she should have said "a man who shot an armed robber". Second, I'm surprised how clear this video is. Based on the appearance of the man who shot the bad guy, the appearance of his friend and the "uniqueness" of his truck, he will not be difficult to locate. Third, based on his reaction to learning the deceased had been using a fake/toy gun, said reaction will only bolster his position with respect to his own actions. He was legitimately upset. By the way, the gun being fake has no bearing on the fate of the man who shot the bad guy. Fourth, with respect to the deceased and those who choose to pursue such a career, life would be better, more fulfilling and less deadly if one were to simply get a job.
Hopefully, it doesn't go to a grand jury, because grand juries tend to grant true bills whenever the prosecutor wants one. It's not an adversarial situation where the defendant's point of view is particularly represented.
Pretty sure every homicide goes before a grand jury in TX, no matter the circumstances.
Looks good to me. Hopefully he is in the clear. I still recall the pharmacist in Oklahoma who got fugked when he killed an armed robber.
Yeah, me too. NOW......recall that the guy shot the first robber, chased after the second robber. Then returned, grabbed a second gun and shot the first robber again No. 1 - Neither you nor I were there to actually witness the event No. 2 - robber #1 was neutralized (I didn't say dead!), why swap firearms and shoot again No. 3 - was robber #1 surrendering when the pharmacist plugged him again?
Lotta she-eye-tee going on there that can't be determined by that video. Was he right or wrong? I dunno....and I won't presume to say who got shagged the hardest!
IIRC the fact that the pharmacist changed guns is where the court says he crossed the line between "self defense" and "murder". Again, "I dunno?".
Bad deal for sure. I don’t know who the pharmacist’s defense attorney was, but I’d sure as schit not hire him even for a speeding ticket.
As soon as the Houston news media sets up an interview with the negro fambly who will cry their eyes out on cue, that man's fate will be sealed in Harris County.
Store owner should have done that guy a solid and deleted the video and then just gave a statement that the old guy defended himself and the patrons. A DA is gonna be all over this one once the public cries.
Actually, the family[/url], seems to have a pretty good take on the matter............
Compared to most...
Yep, you have to go all the way to the end of this 8+ minute recording, but the mom says she doesn’t hate the shooter, understands why he did what he did, just wonders why he had to shoot him so many times “when he was already dead”.
1. There is a guy sitting behind the perp directly in the line of fire. Know your target and what lies beyond. 2. He shoots him one last time (likely in the head) after he picked up the perps guns and he was on the ground. He's likely gonna do some jail time for that.
If the perp is already dead before the last shot, it can't be murder. Proving that could be interesting but not impossible. Reasonable doubt. Desecrating a corpse perhaps is an appropriate alternative if the DA feels he has to have something..
1. There is a guy sitting behind the perp directly in the line of fire. Know your target and what lies beyond. 2. He shoots him one last time (likely in the head) after he picked up the perps guns and he was on the ground. He's likely gonna do some jail time for that.
Which would be an injustice, since the guy didn't ask to be put in that situation.
This is in Texas where sanity on juries is not a foreign concept so I hope he doesn’t have to deal with this further.
If I was on the jury that man is safe. It was far from textbook but he didn’t ask for this to happen and since he was initially justified I’d say he was justified throughout.
If society wants to encourage heroism vs the scum of the earth, we need to stop putting heroes in prison for not being experts on every minute technicality of self-defense law. We should just say thank you, and let them go on their way. As said above, if it was a justified shoot, don't over analyze what happens in the heat of the moment immediately thereafter.