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Posted By: BCBrian TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/03/06
Tomorrow, Friday @ 10:00pm (Pacific time) is the 90 minute show "Grizzly Man" on Discovery Channel.

It's about the self-appointed "Grizzly Expert" Timothy Treadwell showing his own films about his life amongst grizzly bears.

In one scene he is shown actually attempting to touch a wild grizzly bear all the while proclaiming "I love you Mr. Brown. I love you! I love you!"

In the end "Mr. Brown" (or his buddies) ended up chowing down on Treadwell and his wife - while his video camera recorded hours worth of his and his wife's death screams and then the sounds of him being turned into bear scat.

Should be a good show. I'll tape it.
Posted By: oulufinn Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/03/06

Darwin at his finest... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Think they will put a disclaimer on to not try this yourself before airing? Might be some more idiots in the viewing audience.
Might, thats a given, will be is more like it, Hopefully some of those PETA pukes attempt it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Les
That Charlie Russel character has got to have his date with destiny pretty soon as well. Seen a Nat G show on him and his wife a while ago(Among the Russian brown bears) , and its just a matter of time for them as well.

RO <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: wyoelk Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/03/06
that joker got exactly what he deserved, a one way trip through the digestive system of a large bear, shame his girlfriend had to take the same trip...
Posted By: rob p Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/03/06
Back in wildlife biology classes, they told us that when predators lose their fear of us, we become food. That's why when the Californians stopped hunting mountain lions, they started eating people out for a walk in the woods. Jane Goodall could sit with a troop of mountain gorillas and study them because as far as they are concerned, we aren't food but merely curiously hairless apes ourselves. Bears have made a living eating us for centuries back to Thag in the cave. For someone to intentionally expose themselves to bears in hopes of being accepted by them is inviting himself to dinner. Hope it was quick and painless, that's all.
From what I have heard of his "video" (which is really only an audio at this point) it was neither quick nor painless.
M
............Bear Spray / pepper gas, and little bells on 'yer backpack.

.....perfect harmony, one with nature.........

What a hoot.

GTC
Many years ago (when black bears were allowed to peaceably assemble in Yellowstone Park) I saw a guy try to put his small child on the back of a bear for a picture. The bear (a female with cubs, unbelievably) was incredibly patient, but every time he started to put the kid on her back, she just kept edging away. Finally he gave up in disgust at lack of cooperation. Another example of bears smarter than people. I didn't say anything, I was just a little kid, too. I've got more sympathy for the bear than Treadwell in this case. I hope they don't try to make him into some kind of a hero instead of the incredibly stupid person he seems to be.
Posted By: BCBrian Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/03/06
crossfireoops -

Actually - Treadwell did use bearspray once - and it worked.

But afterwards, he felt such "anguish" over the fact he'd caused pain to the bear - he vowed he'd never use it again - or even carry it again. He felt that even carrying it sent out bad "signals" to the bears that you were not a "loving" fellow creature.
I hate to ruin the movie but he dies.ha ha
Must see TV! The trailer is kinda neat.

http://www.grizzlymanmovie.com/grizzly.html
spoiled it for me, you did! Guess I won't go see it now. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Ron_T Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/03/06
rob p wrote:
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Jane Goodall could sit with a troop of mountain gorillas and study them because as far as they are concerned, we aren't food
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Gorillas are vegetarians...
Good Lord, what a fruitcake!

I don't think he'd qualify for a Darwin Award. Those are for removing yourself from the genepool via stupidity, right? He doesn't strike me as having had a lot of breeding potential to start with.
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rob p wrote:
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Jane Goodall could sit with a troop of mountain gorillas and study them because as far as they are concerned, we aren't food
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Gorillas are vegetarians...


LOL....Dian Fossey studied mountain gorillas...and Jane Goodall studies [bleep].

I can't believe this story. Ah, life without a tv. Sounds like an idiot. This must be the same guy they were talking about in the AK forum a few months back?

So many great human beings in the world....and the media has to make a movie about an idiot <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />!!

HoundGirl
Posted By: Leanwolf Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/03/06
HOUND GIRL - " This must be the same guy they were talking about in the AK forum a few months back?"
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Yep, same idiotic loser.

L.W.
Posted By: kid0917 Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/03/06
I think Jane Goodall was with the [bleep], Dian Fossey was with the gorillas. [bleep] do eat meat once in a while, when they can get it. I have the same habit!!
Posted By: pdxkevin Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/03/06
I wonder how many peta cool-aide drinkers will try to be copycats?
Posted By: IndyCA35 Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/03/06
BCBrian,

Thanks for the heads up.
The guy was a total nut case. And a liar. In the trailer he kept talking about being the ONLY protection for the bears. He neglected to mention that he spent most of his time and was killed INSIDE Katmai National Park where the bears are already protected.

Dick
There are some strange people in this world.....did you guys check out the forum for discussing the fella?? Oh, man.....

for those who are interested....lol...

HoundGirl
Posted By: DaveR Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/03/06
I rented the video a few weeks ago when it came out. They did a real fine job of showing this nut case for the freak he was. A lot of ranting and raving into the camera. Guy really had a lot of problems. Bear did him (and the world) a favor.
I think a more fitting name for that guy would have been Timothy Fedwell. I hear the bears like their humans granola fed.

RO <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
" That Charlie Russel character "

Is that Andy Russel's son, Charlie?


Thanks, GTC
I'm watching this loony-tunes production, out of the corner of my eye.

He's battling his demons...............

Good lord in Heaven, this is wierd............in the extreme.

The BEARS need protection, from this sort of nonsense. Totally unacceptable.

I'm not kidding.

GTC
Now he's touching bear poop...and crying...what a friggin' nut case....
really....is this Discovery show THE movie that came out?
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Now he's touching bear poop...and crying...what a friggin' nut case....

Touching bear poop? No big deal.
BEING bear poop? No thanks.

Dick
The movie is rated R for language. I doubt it's what Discovery is showing.

Dick
They are bleeping a lot out......a lot of non-kid friendly bleeps....
Posted By: MColeman Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
In the words of Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon!"
I'M HEARING a sense of critism from the narator....like this guy was a criminal AND a freak....
MAN!!!
That dude is crazier than a $hitt house rat <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />.
Bart
...........Ditto's, completely flipside......

If the Wardens knew he was out there, in this condition, why didn't they run his azz off?

GTC
A peak inside the PETA mindset eh?
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A peak inside the PETA mindset eh?

You're dead on there buddy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />.
Bart
THESE are the nuts that are trying to destroy our heritage...I don't need to tell Bart185 that though....just talking out loud....

Got a snow storming tommarrow, Bart....probably sunny in Texas huh?
This guy's gonna become a cult figure.

Just a hunch

Morbid fascination, Is everyone ready to cheer, when he gets munched?

phew, GTC
It's only gonna be about 65 and sunny tomorrow <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.
This Grizzly man is funny...the dude reminds me of my
brother in law that used to be on meth...
Bart
I don't know why I'm watching it. curious about what all the Alaskans said 'bout him on other threads....they were right! I could be doing something more worth while...like changing the air in my truck tires.....
One thing is for sure....looking past that friggin' crazy guy there is some AWESOME country there in Alaska....and some fine looking grizz too....
The skeeters are impressive fo-show...
Posted By: DaveR Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
Wacko was one missed med away from smearing himself in his own feces. And the PETA types and bleeding heart liberals will just eat all this up because they don't have a clue.
Posted By: rob p Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
Show just on, watched it at the R&G Club. Good golly, this guy is talking with his back to the bears and they're walking up on him. I'm having chest pains and I'm watching it on tv. He goes into the water with the bear, and tries to touch it from behind. It whips it's head around, and I'm like: dead! I was fishing in the Dead river in Maine and saw a bear. Water got a little bit warmer. Bear's scratching his back on a tree and he walks over to Timmy and turns and walks by. I'm thinking: dead! I can't believe the first people he showed his films to didn't try to lock him up. After I shoot a deer, and walk up to it, until I give em the poke in the eyeball, the hearts beating and the gun's loaded. One was playing possum on me and tried to pick up his head, I'm guessing he had sinister intent! A knee jerk reaction with a .300 Win mag and I had to go looking for his antlers. I would never walk up on a bear unless I was about to unleash the fury on it. And then it would only be to safe shooting distance.
No cable over here, so I guess I'll just have to live the experience vicariously eh <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> In the case of this movie, maybe it should've ended with a medley of those horrible sounds reported on Tim and his girlfriends' last recording.

Anyways, "Grizzly Man" has been done, several of us here have been "Cute and Fuzzy Dog Man" (or woMan) for some time.

Pursuant to another thread here, there seems to still be an opening for a "Mountain Lion Man", (a box of Meow Mix oughta get ya started). Then of course, no one has yet been "Armadillo Man", "Feral Hog Man", "Striped Skunk Man" or "Star-nosed Mole Man"....

I dunno where I'm going with this...

Golden-cheeked Warbler Man
NEITHER Do I.....
"Armadillo Man", "Feral Hog Man", "Striped Skunk Man" or "Star-nosed Mole Man"....

FOTFLMAO <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

GTC
Posted By: Barkoff Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
Anybody catch the show on Discovery right before Grizzly Man?

Just as bad, but an African tale. The guy was just as loony as Treadwell, but he was doing the same thing with lions.

Treadwell; California; I wonder why he never swam with the white shark.
After watching the flick...you might get a kick outta this...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5903516284967348088
Posted By: Jamie Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
What a dumb azz, I'm suprized he lived through 13 summers up there befor he got eaten.

Jamie
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> It hurt me!
M
Thanks, I needed a good laugh. I loved the ending, just like the 40 year old virgin..

He was nuttier then squirrel chit <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Hilarious flick, the video is great also.
Alaska Hippie...................

Thanks, .............that video,

Kinda puts it all into perspective.

GTC
A whole bunch of weirdness going on there. The coroner gave me the creeps, as though he was getting off on it all.

All in all it did show some balance in that what he was doing came under some criticism. The guy was obviously conflicted as to his identity and had serious social problems. More of a case study of a nut than a nature film.
Posted By: EvilTwin Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
I don't feel one iota of sympathy for either him or his girlfriend. Too bad bears had to die. Why would anybody waste sympathy on idiots who swim with sharks and get ate during a feeding frenzy?????
Posted By: IndyCA35 Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
Did Treadwell have enough brains even to pack pepper spray?
CFO, not sure if Charlie Russel is Andy's son or not, but he has written a book called "Grizzly heart" or something like it. Him and his wife raised 2 brown bear cubs on the Russian peninsula across from Alaska. Anyway he doesn't talk as crazy as Treadwell, but he's still over the edge.

RO <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
BCB said that Treadwell used bear spray once successfully, but didn't like the results because the bear felt some discomfort. That same bear probably used it too spice up Treadwell's chewy little carcass.

RO <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Painless Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
he is OH SORRY was a fuggin lunatic that got himself and another person killed. The funniest part is that he was protecting bears in a national park. At the end of the video they start talking about all of the poaching going on in the park and that after he was killed six bears were poached. Did they do autopsies on the bears to see if they were paoched or what. In my opinion he got what he was looking for..........blake
Posted By: kutenay Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
I actually feel kinda sorry for this guy, he was obviously a mentally ill person and of a type that I knew many of during my years supervising various silivicultural crews. These were largely American "draftdodgers" from western states, especially California and they were pretty much like Treadwell, pushy, loud and full of themselves.....and useless in the bush.

I would NOT put Charlie Russell in the same category as Treadwell, I have his book and find it very interesting as I did his father's writings. I met Andy a couple of times and worked in the areas he outfitted in, some 40 years ago. The Russells have done a lot for conservation and Charlie's interactions with Grizzlies are TOTALLY different than Treadwell's were.

There is more BS posted on "gun" forums about Grizzlies than ANY other topic, usually by people who have minimal wilderness/bear experience, if any. This is much the same sort of exaggeration from the "hunter's" side as Treadwell's bizarre behaviour was and is as irrelevant to REAL conservation of Grizzlies or their wilderness habitat. I think that hunters AND wilderness advocates NEED to reconcile in the interest of preserving both and I hope to see this happen.
Bob
I was on a murder trial a couple years ago and Falico, the coroner testified at great length for obvious reasons. The defense attorney, Rex Butler, a huge and hugely intimidating black man, go to him repeatedly during questioning. Seems he may have missde considerable bits of significant information in the autopsy.

There was an article in the newspaper not too long ago about how Hollywierd has gotten all damp in the panties over how great he was in the show. He didn't do as well under pressure...
art
Posted By: BCBrian Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
I liked what the native guy said - words to the effect that doing what Treadwell did was (in his culture's view) the ultimitate in "disrespect" to such a large noble predator.
He added words like "A human habituated bear - is a dead bear." I liked his outlook.

Now all I have to do is burn the VHS tape to disk - and edit out about a 100 minutes of commercials. Man! there were a lot of them!

I'll keep this new DVD to pull out if ever we have any "granolas" visiting. I love showing people REAL life wildlife stuff like the "Predator" series, or "Trials of life" - and in doing so they learn a bit, and they see that in real life - unlike Disney's shows - sometimes... the squirrel gets eaten. And, thats the way it's supposed to be...
Posted By: kutenay Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
BCB, my oh my, what is a liberal, "gay-positive", "multicultural" and public union supporting guy like you doing disparaging your fellow "travelers on this spaceship" by calling them ...granolas...???? This is not what I would expect of an environmentally sensitive, organic and peace-promoting "back to the lander" like you!

BTW, I AM a ...granola..., love the stuff and have eaten it while working, fishing, hunting and mountaineering for decades. So, tell me, oh wise and learned pedagogue, whyfor the obvious bias against we ...granolas...?????
Posted By: 7 STW Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
I watched the movie last night.The guy was OUT THERE no doubt.IMO the only persons that deserves a death like that is child molelesters.
Just finished watching the tape of last nights program and I have to concur with Kutenay on the "Mental" sickness Tredwell obviously had. As far as Charlie Russel, he is definately a little bit more mentally stable than Timothy, but not by much. Anyone who hand raises grizzlies in the wild is not all with it and is creating a very dangerous situation for others that the bears may encounter later. As for Andy, I have read "Memoirs of a Mountain Man" and "Grizzly Country". I liked his writing, but I don't much care for guys who hunt and kill bears their whole life and then when they get old, they frown on the younger generation hunting the same bears they hunted relentlessly. It would be like me falling trees my whole life and then trying to stop the next generation from logging.

If you hunt bears great, if you don't hunt bears, fine with me also, but playing mother nature and habituating bears or any other wild animal is just wrong. In that regard I hope Charlie Russel meets the same end as his cousin Timmy.

RO <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: kutenay Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
That is not exactly what Andy was trying to do and I am not entirely certain that Charlie's interaction with Grizzlies habituated them in the common sense of that term; he frequently referred to the indigenous people of the Kamchatka who had evolved coping procedures with Grizzlies that were far different than "ours" and much more successful.

Andy realized in the '60s that his favourite stomping grounds in the Waterton Lakes area, the Kananaskis, the "Kishinin", Sage Creek and so on were under the destructive assault of the government/corporate/big union landrapers and "trophy hunters"; he decided to quit hunting and so did a number of very experienced, native born, old-timers, trappers and guides whom I knew at that time. I actually respect this decision and applaud his honesty in being willing to take flack about it....Andy Russell had a huge ego, was a born showman and loved to pose in front of crowds in a fringed, beaded buckskin jacket, cowboy hat and was full of bombastic phrases about some hunters being "bingo playing powder burners" as he said to me once in 1970 or thereabouts. BUT, he was a genuine bushman, a very sincere, decent and committed conservationist and a damned likeable man....in short, he was human and did his best.

Charlie's sneering references to ...hunters with their big guns...in "Grizzlyheart' annoyed me at first, but, Charlie simply has too much realtime Grizzly experience for me to allow his personal idiosyncrasies to blind me to his knowledge, bush skills and personal integrity. I may not agree with everything he advocates, or Wayne McCrory states or Dr. Steven Herrero says, but, I have enough actual wilderness experience and biological education to respect each one of these guys, very much. We do not, IMO, learn from those we easily agree with, but, from those whose words challenge our opinions.

I used to know Wayne and Steven and I would enjoy meeting Charlie and hope to do so in the near future. I would not wish a death by Grizzly attack on anyone as I have had colleagues severely mauled....well, maybe landrapers, "developers" and cultural traitors as well as child molestors.....
Crossfire... prob'ly we've both been drinking moldy coffee... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

But back to the topic in general, along with others here in all seriousness I wouldn't wish an end like that on anyone. Neither though, should it be forgotten how he died, especially by the clueless.

Birdwatcher
Art...

Yes, the coroner was probably coached on this; maybe it was his desire to "do well" that came through so strangely. I, too, have sat on a murder trial jury and have heard coroner's recitations of the facts...very Joe -Friday-like: just the facts with no dramatics.
Posted By: BCBrian Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
Kutenay,

I LOVE granola! If it weren't for the stratospheric caloric levels - I'd eat the orange Harvest Crunch three times a day.

To me a "granola" - when applied to a guy - means he's a starry eyed idealist, who knows nothing about how nature really functions, he's left wing - in all aspects, he wears hemp clothes and probably has a pony tail - whether he's grey, balding or not. If it's a "she-granola" - much is the same except she wears long wool skirts, never shaves he legs or armpits and only wears tie-dyed tops and bandanas.

Eating granola, my good man - does not make you - "a granola."

You see, Kutenay - teaching teenage kids (and having three under that age living with me) - keeps me up to date on the latest vernacular. Perhaps you don't have that advantage.

I'll try and remember that when writing.
Posted By: gmsemel Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
"He got what he deserved" Sam Egli, Helicopter Pilot Egli Air Haul King Samon , AK. I know Sam, we talked a little about this, he didn't like having to go out there and fly his remains and his girlfriend back. Somebody else aways ended up cleaning up this guys mess. A real wack job, to be sure.
It ain't right to wish a death by bear on anyone, I agree. But what really gets me is the danger these clowns leave behind. A bear of any sort is dangerous period, but to have one that is used to being in close proximety with human(s) and doesn't feel threatened........Well lets just say DANGEROUS doesn't begin to describe it. That pilot that walked up towards the camp to look for Timmy is darn lucky he didn't meet the same fate. So yah, if someone has to die at the paws of a bear, then I sincerely hope it is the guy/gal that is creating these situations and not someone who respects bears and minds their own business around them.

RO <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I watched it last night.Other than WAY too many commercials,I enjoyed it.Here are my thoughts.

#1)Tim had some MAJOR mental problems.This was definetly made worse by his years of alchohol and drug abuse.If he lived in "the real world",he would have to be heavily medicated to hold a steady paying job,which,BTW,he never did.He tried to make it as an actor and failed,got on drugs,then hit the bush.

#2)Even though I do not agree with ANY of his views whatsoever,he seemed to have a good heart (despite his many mental and personal problems,which we all have),and DID NOT deserve the death he recieved.The only people who deserve that cruel of death (and yes,it is cruel),would be brutal dictators and child rapists.

#3)He knew VERY clearly the danger he was in.When he filmed "Ollie",the 28 year old male that ended up killing him and his girlfriend a few days later,he stated "Could this be the bear that ends up killing me?"

#4)He got THE best grizzly footage I've ever seen.

I also noticed he seemed to have what Rush Limbaugh calls "The voice of the American Castrati,"other than he lacked the typical elite style of ending every sentence in a question mark as most of those types do.

WB.
Posted By: rob p Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/04/06
Eek, during the entire special, couldn't you see the bears were way too close and he was way to comfortable around them. I watched in the fetal position thinking this one's gonna get him, this one's gonna get him, the one he touches, the one he swims with, the skinny one fishing and walking up behind him, the one he walks up to scratching his back, the two fighting behind him. The half a fox or the bear cub's severed leg laying around and all the skinny bears gave me a clue. Yikes. A while ago John Krackauer write a book called Into the Wild about a college student who went to live in the wilds of Alaska and whose remains were found in a bus towed out into the woods by loggers to bunk in. He went out to do the Thoreau thing and had a bad bad end.
Posted By: sluggo63 Re: TV Preview: "Grizzly Man" - 02/05/06
I watched just a few minutes of that show. Couldn't stand any more.
Bears aren't called large, dangerous animals for nothing. Good intentions don't change the fact that fella was making nice with PREDATORS!! Predators large enough to kill and eat people....
When I read in forums like this one that a .44 Magnum is the minimum handgun you should consider for Grizzly Bear protection, I'm thinkin', "Don't want to get near one of those animals. The bear's gonna hurt me or the gun's gonna hurt me. Not good options here."
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A while ago John Krackauer write a book called Into the Wild about a college student who went to live in the wilds of Alaska and whose remains were found in a bus towed out into the woods by loggers to bunk in. He went out to do the Thoreau thing and had a bad bad end.

I was reminded of that book many times while watching the movie.That is one of my favorite books BTW,and I ought to dig it out and read it again.

FWIW,the man in Into The Wild was NOTHING like Treadwell.He was intelligent and not some animal rights nut.He had a rifle with him (a Remington Nylon 66 22 LR) and killed his own food.He was actualy doing just fine and would have made it out,but the river was too high to cross,and he had to go back (he also didn't know about the river crossing 200 yards upstream).His undoing was eating some posionious potato-like grubs,that made him extremely ill and unable to hunt or do anything to feed himself,and he starved to death.That could have just as easily happened to you or me.

I will though say that he was stupid in that he only took 20 pounds of rice with him,which he ran through pretty fast,but his whole point was to "live off the land",which he did,and quite succussfully at that.Like I said,his whole trip went pretty well until he tried to leave,and then it went to hell in a hand basket.

A great book,which I recomend to everyone here.

WB.
I a jr. in collage going for a wildlife biology degree, this guy make people in my profession seem like idiots, This man is a moron and deserved what he got, I sorry if i offended anyone but this is my opinion, (that I toned down for family viewing)
"I a jr. in collage going for a wildlife biology degree, "



UMmmmm...............they have anthing in the curiculum, like spelling / grammar? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

GTC <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Wyo....I think your future professional reputation will probably remain intact...considering Treadwell was a nutcase with no common sense regarding or formal training with respect to....BEARS..., you being a colligate level wildlife biologist possessing the opinion you do of Treadwell and I'm guessing his kind (human)...have a lot going for you, keep up the good work!

After all you are hanging at the Campfire....
This guy was so unbelievable na�ve, that it killed him. In the film he mentions that he is studying the bears in Alaska. I really didn�t anything that I would call scientific about his �study.� I seriously doubt that he has any scientific credentials, biology degree or even experience with animals. It seemed very amateurish, especially with all of the bad language. At points when he rants about the park service and the government, he came across as someone going through paranoid delusions. This documentary doesn�t deserve any praise.
He had a death wish...there are no other reasonable answers for such thoughtless behavior. Why the media gives this kind of hoopla attention...well...I already know....IT SELLS!

HoundGirl
I remember the "Into the Wild Book", the poison (form the roots of a plant IIRC) being so insidious that he was slowly starving to death without realizing it, the poison painlessly and without overt symptoms inhibiting his metabolism. By the time he realized the roots were to blame for his growing weakness it was too late.

Indeed something that could happen to anyone new to the area, and not at all in the same league as the bear guy.

Birdwatcher
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"I a jr. in collage going for a wildlife biology degree, "



UMmmmm...............they have anthing in the curiculum, like spelling / grammar? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

GTC <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

LOL !

Git-R-Done dude....
I don't think he was naive. Like someone posted above, he knew the danger and talked about it all the time on the tapes. I think he got off on it. He was obviously a whacko, and spending all that time out there alone made him even crazier.

The part I liked best were the foxes. I thought it was amazing how they seemed to be as tame as dogs and followed him around like dogs.

And, finally, although he was a nuttcase with a deathwish, who here on this board hasn't dreamed about being able to spend a months on end in the wilderness? For most of us those sorts of fantasies involve buckskins and rifles in sort of a James Fenimore Cooper thing, but the urge is the same. In some ways I respect him. Crazier that an outhouse rat, but he said to heck with it, dropped everything and did something that many of us toiling back here in the real world dream of doing (minus the maneating bears, of course).
I think a lot of people long to "get back in touch" with nature.For many of us,that involves hunting/fishing,for another segment,that involves going out and trying to make nature into a petting zoo.One is reality,one ain't.It doesn't take a genius to figure out which is which.

The Native guy in the film said it best-we've have had a 7,000 year agreement with the bears.When it gets broken,something dies.

WB.
Hey
What a waiste of my time. I turned it off. This is a real dumbass... a real mental case.... gene pool is better.
BB
For some reason this reminded me of "The Man Who Would Be King"in that finally one of the bears figured out he was nothing special. I just hope someone else doesn't try it. I don't mind taking a few chances, but that was ridiculous. Somebody should have told him the old adage about nine out of ten bears will leave you alone, but you never know which bear is the tenth one. I think the adage is actually about black bears, odds may not be quite as good for brown bears. although can be pretty tolerant--but not predictable. Still, you gotta love those bears and those who huny them fais chase.
typos....hunt for huny, fair for fais
I finally got around to watching it tonight.

Arrogant, presumptive and immature. Can you thay unsthable? Oh how cuuute!..... hey, come back here with my f**king hat! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Kept watching for the kicka$$ bear footage--I'll give him that--and Alaska scenery. The foxes were cool too.

+1 on "Into The Wild"

Shaun
I like how sad he was that the fox died.

The Old Man always said to us when we were little "Some animals live, and some animals die. That's the way of the wild."
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