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Posted By: 204farr new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/19/14
Built By Cody's customs Guns
Stiller TAC30
Jewell Trigger
PROOF Research 1-9 26"
manners stock MCS-EH1 with carbon-fiber layup (midnight camo)
bedding devcon 10-110
Wyatt's Outdoors Extended Magazine Box (center feed with custom tunnel 3.2 C.O.L)
Oberndorf style bottom metal
seamless Muzzle brakes
chambered in 7mm Rifle Golf
9.5 LB with 56mm Night force
180 VLD @ 3000+ fps



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7mm Hadly 7mm Rifle Golf 7Saum
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Posted By: safariman Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/19/14
You have impressed me with not one, but TWO wildcat cartridges I had yet to hear of or see. The 7mm Hadly and the 7mm Rifle Golf. Odd name, for sure. How did this round come by that moniker? Pretty impressive ballistics period, but for a super short case like that? Downright amazing. Ought to reach out there and touch some stuff!

Serious round in a serious looking rifle. I am so sick of puny little cartridges (7/08, 6.5 Creedmore, 7SAUM or WSM) for builds this one is a breath of fresh air here. High BC bullet AND some real CC's or cubic inches of horsepower to push it along. Winning combo, I am going to guess.

I will be anxious to here about the field tests. Please post follow up reports.
Very nice Cody

You need to build Rob and Kevin one grin
Posted By: 300MAG Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/19/14
Hits like a 4 iron!!
Posted By: GregW Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/19/14
Originally Posted by safariman
You have impressed me with not one, but TWO wildcat cartridges I had yet to hear of or see. The 7mm Hadly and the 7mm Rifle Golf. Odd name, for sure. How did this round come by that moniker? Pretty impressive ballistics period, but for a super short case like that? Downright amazing. Ought to reach out there and touch some stuff!

Serious round in a serious looking rifle. I am so sick of puny little cartridges (7/08, 6.5 Creedmore, 7SAUM or WSM) for builds this one is a breath of fresh air here. High BC bullet AND some real CC's or cubic inches of horsepower to push it along. Winning combo, I am going to guess.

I will be anxious to here about the field tests. Please post follow up reports.


As a friendly fyi bud, most of us use some sort of bullet aiming device that allows accurate bullet pacement longer than max pb range, some of us do not need a huge cartridge because we do not shoot stuff in the back end, and most of us do not feel the need to express our shortcomings by touting huge cased cartridges to i guess make up for something else, or at least this is my imtession of folks at the range.

Nice rifle op, looks like an interesting case.
Posted By: safariman Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/19/14
Originally Posted by GregW
Originally Posted by safariman
You have impressed me with not one, but TWO wildcat cartridges I had yet to hear of or see. The 7mm Hadly and the 7mm Rifle Golf. Odd name, for sure. How did this round come by that moniker? Pretty impressive ballistics period, but for a super short case like that? Downright amazing. Ought to reach out there and touch some stuff!

Serious round in a serious looking rifle. I am so sick of puny little cartridges (7/08, 6.5 Creedmore, 7SAUM or WSM) for builds this one is a breath of fresh air here. High BC bullet AND some real CC's or cubic inches of horsepower to push it along. Winning combo, I am going to guess.

I will be anxious to here about the field tests. Please post follow up reports.


As a friendly fyi bud, most of us use some sort of bullet aiming device that allows accurate bullet pacement longer than max pb range, some of us do not need a huge cartridge because we do not shoot stuff in the back end, and most of us do not feel the need to express our shortcomings by touting huge cased cartridges to i guess make up for something else, or at least this is my imtession of folks at the range.

Nice rifle op, looks like an interesting case.


As a friendly FYI back, bud, some of us who have actually hunted the world over, and see the effects of high velocity impacts VS moderate or slow velocity impacts, know from hundreds of examples (or more) that a good bullet, placed well, at high velocity DOES hit harder and kill quicker and cleaner than that same bullet at a slower, more sedate velocity. And while high BC and the new generation of high BC bullets do more than a little extra velocity to make both wind deflection and trajectory more manageable, a high BC bullet WITH high velocity is even better. Thus my compliment to the builder of this rifle. Not just for hitting paper targets, but for sure in making clean quick kills. No other than Craig Boddington himself touts the 8mm RemMAg loaded to its full potential, and the 340 WBY are two of the finest all around big game cartridges for the travelling big game hunter. He places the 300WBY right on the cusp of those other's and I agree wholeheartedly. Here is a picture of Craig Boddington and me at SCI recently:

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This idea has been well proven over and over by the likes of none other than Elgin Gates (with his 300WBY) Parker O. Ackley, Wally Tabor (300WBY again) Warren Page and many other knew or know this. My experience of having to drop bait animals on the spot for my Leopard hunters and not having the luxury of spending time tracking them, as well as desiring to drop large animals who are either dangerous or hard to find due to the rain forest like jungles they live in has proven to me that a good bullet, good bullet placement AND a high impact velocity are a consistently winning package.

As far as Shooting animals in the "ass" a bullet through the hips on a near sideways shot is not a shot in the ass. It is a slight miss by an excited hunter on a LARGE and 350 yards distant moving bear. Anyone who still feels excitement, ruch and thrill when hunting would have had an adrenaline rush upon seeing such a terrific animal as well. Especially in an area not known for such. I merely failed to compensate for his forward movement when I quickly calculated and made the rather longish shot. A human error that I owned and own up to. Craig Boddington has written of his screwed up shots more than once, and that is one of the reasons I admire him and his writing more than some others. Of the many bears I have taken, one particular black bear being a lazered 405 yards out, this is the only one that I did not take clean through the vitals with the first shot, and the shot looked (from my scope's position when the shot broke), from the bears reaction of going straight down when hit and merely rolling down the hill as a lifeless lump and the solid sound of the shot like a DRT bear. When my friends and I went back early the next morning, it was to merely retrieve a dead bear. That he still had a little bit of life in him (very little as he made no attempt to move or escape) was a surprise to all.

I am not even going to reply to the way stupid comment of folks compensating for something else when using high velocity cartridges, there are too many examples of guides, outfitters, writers (certainly not all) and other widely experience hunters and mens men who used and appreciated high velocity AND good bullet placement with good bullets for me to even spend much time on that assenine comment.

I will finish by saying that when I queried the guides and outfitters I booked for in MT, Colorado and Alaska as wel as Zimbabwe a few years ago which cartridge they thought was the best overall for big game in thier area's (admittedly a small sample of only a dozen fellows, but with much guiding and hunting experience each) the highest vote getter was the 340WBY and not the 7/08 or a 6.5 anything.

I have read surveys of outdoors proffesionals in various hunting magazines where the same query was made, and the 340 and 300 WBY were both well represented high vote getters, with zero /08 cartridges getting even honorable mention.

So yes, I find this high performance wildcat, which combines case efficiency with high velocity and a high BC bullet to be a great idea and - as I said before - a breath of much needed reality based fresh air here.

As always, YMMV, and have FUN hunting with whatever thunderstick you choose. Large medium or small.

S'man




Posted By: SKane Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/19/14
Originally Posted by safariman
I am so sick of puny little cartridges (7/08, 6.5 Creedmore, 7SAUM or WSM) for builds this one is a breath of fresh air here. High BC bullet AND some real CC's or cubic inches of horsepower to push it along. Winning combo, I am going to guess.



Hotrod - many here are plain sick of you. And, yeah, we know - you get plenty of support via PM. wink

204 - Very nice rifle!
Posted By: Danny1788 Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/19/14
7mm saum AI?
Posted By: safariman Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/19/14
Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by safariman
I am so sick of puny little cartridges (7/08, 6.5 Creedmore, 7SAUM or WSM) for builds this one is a breath of fresh air here. High BC bullet AND some real CC's or cubic inches of horsepower to push it along. Winning combo, I am going to guess.



Hotrod - many here are plain sick of you. And, yeah, we know - you get plenty of support via PM. wink grin



204 - Very nice rifle!


Skane, certainly gentleman can disagree and have enlightening and engaging conversations, while differing in opinion or viewpoints, without becoming 'sick' of one another one would hope. what caused this in your opinion? (sincere question here, not rhetorical in any manner) I harbor no such ill feelings of you or anyone else here who simply espouses a different idea of cartridge performance or rifles and I have said such over and over again. I tried to PM this to you, but apparently you have me on ignore. Which THEN begs the question "If you are truly sick of me, why would you toggle my reply and then react to it?" Odd, indeed.

I would love to know what I have done, other than have strongly held views based upon my personal experience and beliefs regarding cartridges and rifles, to warrant such a reaction from you? If I have offended you sometime in some way, I sincerely apologize. Given a fair opportunity, I will make right whatever wrongs I have done against you. This is my solemn vow.

But SOMEONE, or a few someone's, have to stand up for the obvious superiority of controlled round feed bolt guns spouting bullets at hyper velocities!
Posted By: 300MAG Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/19/14
Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by safariman
I am so sick of puny little cartridges (7/08, 6.5 Creedmore, 7SAUM or WSM) for builds this one is a breath of fresh air here. High BC bullet AND some real CC's or cubic inches of horsepower to push it along. Winning combo, I am going to guess.



Hotrod - many here are plain sick of you. And, yeah, we know - you get plenty of support via PM. wink

204 - Very nice rifle!


Agreed with 199% SKane - TAKE A HIKE SAFARIMAN, PLEASE!!
Posted By: MadMooner Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/19/14
That's what it looks like. 3k is cookin' outta that hull with 180's!

Neat round!
Posted By: GregW Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/19/14
Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by safariman
I am so sick of puny little cartridges (7/08, 6.5 Creedmore, 7SAUM or WSM) for builds this one is a breath of fresh air here. High BC bullet AND some real CC's or cubic inches of horsepower to push it along. Winning combo, I am going to guess.



Hotrod - many here are plain sick of you. And, yeah, we know - you get plenty of support via PM. wink


This is the quote I meant to quote -
Posted By: GregW Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/19/14
Originally Posted by safariman
Originally Posted by GregW
Originally Posted by safariman
You have impressed me with not one, but TWO wildcat cartridges I had yet to hear of or see. The 7mm Hadly and the 7mm Rifle Golf. Odd name, for sure. How did this round come by that moniker? Pretty impressive ballistics period, but for a super short case like that? Downright amazing. Ought to reach out there and touch some stuff!

Serious round in a serious looking rifle. I am so sick of puny little cartridges (7/08, 6.5 Creedmore, 7SAUM or WSM) for builds this one is a breath of fresh air here. High BC bullet AND some real CC's or cubic inches of horsepower to push it along. Winning combo, I am going to guess.

I will be anxious to here about the field tests. Please post follow up reports.


As a friendly fyi bud, most of us use some sort of bullet aiming device that allows accurate bullet pacement longer than max pb range, some of us do not need a huge cartridge because we do not shoot stuff in the back end, and most of us do not feel the need to express our shortcomings by touting huge cased cartridges to i guess make up for something else, or at least this is my imtession of folks at the range.

Nice rifle op, looks like an interesting case.


As a friendly FYI back, bud, some of us who have actually hunted the world over, and see the effects of high velocity impacts VS moderate or slow velocity impacts, know from hundreds of examples (or more) that a good bullet, placed well, at high velocity DOES hit harder and kill quicker and cleaner than that same bullet at a slower, more sedate velocity. And while high BC and the new generation of high BC bullets do more than a little extra velocity to make both wind deflection and trajectory more manageable, a high BC bullet WITH high velocity is even better. Thus my compliment to the builder of this rifle. Not just for hitting paper targets, but for sure in making clean quick kills. No other than Craig Boddington himself touts the 8mm RemMAg loaded to its full potential, and the 340 WBY are two of the finest all around big game cartridges for the travelling big game hunter. He places the 300WBY right on the cusp of those other's and I agree wholeheartedly. Here is a picture of Craig Boddington and me at SCI recently:

[Linked Image]

This idea has been well proven over and over by the likes of none other than Elgin Gates (with his 300WBY) Parker O. Ackley, Wally Tabor (300WBY again) Warren Page and many other knew or know this. My experience of having to drop bait animals on the spot for my Leopard hunters and not having the luxury of spending time tracking them, as well as desiring to drop large animals who are either dangerous or hard to find due to the rain forest like jungles they live in has proven to me that a good bullet, good bullet placement AND a high impact velocity are a consistently winning package.

As far as Shooting animals in the "ass" a bullet through the hips on a near sideways shot is not a shot in the ass. It is a slight miss by an excited hunter on a LARGE and 350 yards distant moving bear. Anyone who still feels excitement, ruch and thrill when hunting would have had an adrenaline rush upon seeing such a terrific animal as well. Especially in an area not known for such. I merely failed to compensate for his forward movement when I quickly calculated and made the rather longish shot. A human error that I owned and own up to. Craig Boddington has written of his screwed up shots more than once, and that is one of the reasons I admire him and his writing more than some others. Of the many bears I have taken, one particular black bear being a lazered 405 yards out, this is the only one that I did not take clean through the vitals with the first shot, and the shot looked (from my scope's position when the shot broke), from the bears reaction of going straight down when hit and merely rolling down the hill as a lifeless lump and the solid sound of the shot like a DRT bear. When my friends and I went back early the next morning, it was to merely retrieve a dead bear. That he still had a little bit of life in him (very little as he made no attempt to move or escape) was a surprise to all.

I am not even going to reply to the way stupid comment of folks compensating for something else when using high velocity cartridges, there are too many examples of guides, outfitters, writers (certainly not all) and other widely experience hunters and mens men who used and appreciated high velocity AND good bullet placement with good bullets for me to even spend much time on that assenine comment.

I will finish by saying that when I queried the guides and outfitters I booked for in MT, Colorado and Alaska as wel as Zimbabwe a few years ago which cartridge they thought was the best overall for big game in thier area's (admittedly a small sample of only a dozen fellows, but with much guiding and hunting experience each) the highest vote getter was the 340WBY and not the 7/08 or a 6.5 anything.

I have read surveys of outdoors proffesionals in various hunting magazines where the same query was made, and the 340 and 300 WBY were both well represented high vote getters, with zero /08 cartridges getting even honorable mention.

So yes, I find this high performance wildcat, which combines case efficiency with high velocity and a high BC bullet to be a great idea and - as I said before - a breath of much needed reality based fresh air here.

As always, YMMV, and have FUN hunting with whatever thunderstick you choose. Large medium or small.

S'man




Wow - Feel better now? You just seem to have drama follow you around, make passive aggressive comments with a significant number of your posts, and constantly make broad, ignorant comments like the one SKane quoted (puny cartridges, crappy synthetic stocks, high-faluting turret systems are stupid etc.) and then reply with a long dramatic post followed up by a longer dramatic PM, to state your case when someone dares to doubt your almighty "experience" and guide polling to justify your "case"...

I am a guide, why don't you poll me on what cartridges I like for big game? On second thought my experience may not matter because I'm not over 50, am not a gunwriter, and haven't been to Africa and you won't like my cartridge choices anyway...

The thought that a 7 SAUM or WSM is puny is pretty hilarious...





Posted By: safariman Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/19/14
Originally Posted by MadMooner
That's what it looks like. 3k is cookin' outta that hull with 180's!

Neat round!


That is mostly what I was trying to say. To the OP, so sorry your thread on this fine rifle and very cool cartridge was hijacked so badly. I had no intention of my comment - meant to be a compliment and high praise for your new 'cat - would turn so.

I hope that moving forward this thread can remain about your rifle and cartridge, with more good comments. And I am looking forward to the post shooting reports!

Is this intended to be a target shooting only rifle, or do you plan to hunt game with it? If hunting is its purpose, what kinds of game and in what area's and scenario's? It would sure work well out here in the wide open CRP grasslands where I deer hunt.
Do you have to have a headstamped cartridge that matches your rifle in Africa?
I believe different cartridges work great in Africa and other parts of the World. Would you use a big Weatherby on a dik dik? Are you allowed to use a 338 bore or smaller on the big 3? I don't know the answers to these and am willing to learn.
Short answer..... from everything I've read and talking to the ph when I went to Africa, allot of guys use BIG guns little critters Africa.
Originally Posted by safariman

I will finish by saying that when I queried the guides and outfitters I booked for in MT, Colorado and Alaska as wel as Zimbabwe a few years ago which cartridge they thought was the best overall for big game in thier area's (admittedly a small sample of only a dozen fellows, but with much guiding and hunting experience each) the highest vote getter was the 340WBY and not the 7/08 or a 6.5 anything.







BS.
Neat cartridge, OP. Also welcome to the 'Fire. Sorry to have a pissing match on your thread, but certain individuals (Safariman) aren't much cared for around these parts (these parts being every 24hourcampfire subforum other than the Hunter's Campfire; strangely enough the Hunter's Campfire is where most of the non-hunters hang out).

What are the details on case capacity and such of your round? Curious how well it feeds as well.
Posted By: aalf Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/19/14
Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Originally Posted by safariman
I will finish by saying that when I queried the guides and outfitters I booked for in MT, Colorado and Alaska as wel as Zimbabwe a few years ago which cartridge they thought was the best overall for big game in thier area's (admittedly a small sample of only a dozen fellows, but with much guiding and hunting experience each) the highest vote getter was the 340WBY and not the 7/08 or a 6.5 anything.
BS.

Exactly....even from years ago in the G&A Rifle and Cartridge 1987 annual, they did a survey among 30 hunters, writers, and guides, and the 270/280/30-06 took 15 of the 30 votes. Throw in the 7 Mag and it goes to 19 of 30. The 340 had 5 votes. With today's bullets, it's probably a bigger spread now.
Posted By: TexasPhotog Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/20/14
Originally Posted by safariman
I am so sick of puny little cartridges (7/08, 6.5 Creedmore, 7SAUM or WSM) for builds this one is a breath of fresh air here.


I've shot the 7-08 and it's worked superbly on a variety of game including black bear. If you could shoot, you'd find the same.
Posted By: 204farr Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/20/14
it's no biggie more people will read it whistle
Posted By: Pahntr760 Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/20/14
Awesome round, Cody. I am strongly considering this as my 'on-deck' build. I am gathering components now for a LR rig for Tim T's place next spring. I thoroughly enjoy your builds and ingenuity. Thanks again...


Originally Posted by safariman
I am so sick of puny little cartridges (7/08, 6.5 Creedmore, 7SAUM or WSM) for builds this one is a breath of fresh air here.


Considering the 2 wildcats you commented on are directly derived from 2 you denounced, I don't think the comment has any credibility. Yeah, we all know how you've hunted all over the world. We also know how you ass shoot bears and let em lay (a 2+ foot miss at 350 isn't just an 'excited hunter). Don't forget you cheat and lie in the classifieds. Your self boisterous and long winded posts are good for a chuckle, but not anything with any take home...we other the the reintegration of 'don't do drugs'.
All I know is that Cody flat out knows how to build a rifle.
That is a great looking build, can you please tell me more about the barrel ?
Benefits I see are low weight, and no rust, they are meant to cool faster ?

The carbon barrels are an unknown to 99.9% of shooters here in Aus I have read a bit of hype over the years.

A few Blasers have just been released in Australia this year with a carbon stock and barrel, I handled 2 in the shop yesterday a 300 RUM and a 416 Taylor both were extremely light I bet they boot like donkeys, do you guys think the carbon barrels will hold up to the BIG bores ?
The guy in the shop knew nothing about them
Posted By: smokepole Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/21/14
Nice build, and nice results.

Originally Posted by Pahntr760
Considering the 2 wildcats you commented on are directly derived from 2 you denounced, I don't think the comment has any credibility.


Dude, didn't you see the photo, that was Craig BODDINGTON!

Nothing says "credibility" like getting your photo taken with a famous gunwriter.

I think Mule Deer was the one who nailed it when he said the 7-08 was a "women and children's cartridge."

As in, women and children seem to kill stuff just fine with it, but for many men, it just won't do.

The 7 SAUM and WSM are puny! You learn something new on here every day. Glad I tuned in.
Posted By: SLM Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/21/14
Originally Posted by safariman
Originally Posted by GregW
Originally Posted by safariman
You have impressed me with not one, but TWO wildcat cartridges I had yet to hear of or see. The 7mm Hadly and the 7mm Rifle Golf. Odd name, for sure. How did this round come by that moniker? Pretty impressive ballistics period, but for a super short case like that? Downright amazing. Ought to reach out there and touch some stuff!

Serious round in a serious looking rifle. I am so sick of puny little cartridges (7/08, 6.5 Creedmore, 7SAUM or WSM) for builds this one is a breath of fresh air here. High BC bullet AND some real CC's or cubic inches of horsepower to push it along. Winning combo, I am going to guess.

I will be anxious to here about the field tests. Please post follow up reports.


As a friendly fyi bud, most of us use some sort of bullet aiming device that allows accurate bullet pacement longer than max pb range, some of us do not need a huge cartridge because we do not shoot stuff in the back end, and most of us do not feel the need to express our shortcomings by touting huge cased cartridges to i guess make up for something else, or at least this is my imtession of folks at the range.

Nice rifle op, looks like an interesting case.


As a friendly FYI back, bud, some of us who have actually hunted the world over, and see the effects of high velocity impacts VS moderate or slow velocity impacts, know from hundreds of examples (or more) that a good bullet, placed well, at high velocity DOES hit harder and kill quicker and cleaner than that same bullet at a slower, more sedate velocity. And while high BC and the new generation of high BC bullets do more than a little extra velocity to make both wind deflection and trajectory more manageable, a high BC bullet WITH high velocity is even better. Thus my compliment to the builder of this rifle. Not just for hitting paper targets, but for sure in making clean quick kills. No other than Craig Boddington himself touts the 8mm RemMAg loaded to its full potential, and the 340 WBY are two of the finest all around big game cartridges for the travelling big game hunter. He places the 300WBY right on the cusp of those other's and I agree wholeheartedly. Here is a picture of Craig Boddington and me at SCI recently:

[Linked Image]

This idea has been well proven over and over by the likes of none other than Elgin Gates (with his 300WBY) Parker O. Ackley, Wally Tabor (300WBY again) Warren Page and many other knew or know this. My experience of having to drop bait animals on the spot for my Leopard hunters and not having the luxury of spending time tracking them, as well as desiring to drop large animals who are either dangerous or hard to find due to the rain forest like jungles they live in has proven to me that a good bullet, good bullet placement AND a high impact velocity are a consistently winning package.

As far as Shooting animals in the "ass" a bullet through the hips on a near sideways shot is not a shot in the ass. It is a slight miss by an excited hunter on a LARGE and 350 yards distant moving bear. Anyone who still feels excitement, ruch and thrill when hunting would have had an adrenaline rush upon seeing such a terrific animal as well. Especially in an area not known for such. I merely failed to compensate for his forward movement when I quickly calculated and made the rather longish shot. A human error that I owned and own up to. Craig Boddington has written of his screwed up shots more than once, and that is one of the reasons I admire him and his writing more than some others. Of the many bears I have taken, one particular black bear being a lazered 405 yards out, this is the only one that I did not take clean through the vitals with the first shot, and the shot looked (from my scope's position when the shot broke), from the bears reaction of going straight down when hit and merely rolling down the hill as a lifeless lump and the solid sound of the shot like a DRT bear. When my friends and I went back early the next morning, it was to merely retrieve a dead bear. That he still had a little bit of life in him (very little as he made no attempt to move or escape) was a surprise to all.

I am not even going to reply to the way stupid comment of folks compensating for something else when using high velocity cartridges, there are too many examples of guides, outfitters, writers (certainly not all) and other widely experience hunters and mens men who used and appreciated high velocity AND good bullet placement with good bullets for me to even spend much time on that assenine comment.

I will finish by saying that when I queried the guides and outfitters I booked for in MT, Colorado and Alaska as wel as Zimbabwe a few years ago which cartridge they thought was the best overall for big game in thier area's (admittedly a small sample of only a dozen fellows, but with much guiding and hunting experience each) the highest vote getter was the 340WBY and not the 7/08 or a 6.5 anything.

I have read surveys of outdoors proffesionals in various hunting magazines where the same query was made, and the 340 and 300 WBY were both well represented high vote getters, with zero /08 cartridges getting even honorable mention.

So yes, I find this high performance wildcat, which combines case efficiency with high velocity and a high BC bullet to be a great idea and - as I said before - a breath of much needed reality based fresh air here.

As always, YMMV, and have FUN hunting with whatever thunderstick you choose. Large medium or small.

S'man






UBER pompous ASS.
Originally Posted by smokepole
Nice build, and nice results.

Originally Posted by Pahntr760
Considering the 2 wildcats you commented on are directly derived from 2 you denounced, I don't think the comment has any credibility.


Dude, didn't you see the photo, that was Craig BODDINGTON!

Nothing says "credibility" like getting your photo taken with a famous gunwriter.

I think Mule Deer was the one who nailed it when he said the 7-08 was a "women and children's cartridge."

As in, women and children seem to kill stuff just fine with it, but for many men, it just won't do.

The 7 SAUM and WSM are puny! You learn something new on here every day. Glad I tuned in.




I don't know much about anything, but I do know that that pic of Craig Boddington was funny, who gives a $hit if you met a famous bloke at a gun show.

I meet pro surfers at the beach all the time, but I would never take my pic with one of them to pass around as though I rub shoulders with them
Come on man post a picture of you and Taj Burrow.
Posted By: dave7mm Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/21/14
Nice.
Very nice.
Would like more detail on the barrel?
How much?
How long a wait to get one.
Looks like the company that bought out ABS?

dave
Posted By: wageslave Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/21/14
Originally Posted by SLM


UBER pompous ASS.


Nice rifle Sir.
All I have is the puny 7SAUM, so I can't hang. grin




P.S. it's fuzzy cause it's a poster......over the bed.
Posted By: safariman Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/21/14
I was being complimentary of the man's new wildcat cartridge, and you all have to keep making the post and thread about me. It wasn't and shouldn't be.
Posted By: smokepole Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/21/14
It's not about you. It's a really nice rifle, and a cool wildcat.

But when you say something like "the 7 SAUM and WSM are puny" you should expect the response you got. That's just a dumb statement.

Go back and look at the photo of the new wildcat next to the 7 SAUM.

Posted By: aalf Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/21/14
Originally Posted by safariman
you all have to keep making the post and thread about me. It wasn't and shouldn't be.

Yet you post a picture of yourself in this thread.....
Posted By: SLM Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/21/14
Originally Posted by aalf
Originally Posted by safariman
you all have to keep making the post and thread about me. It wasn't and shouldn't be.

Yet you post a picture of yourself in this thread.....


That was just to prove he's credible.

And to show off the fact he wears a fanny pack.
Posted By: wageslave Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/21/14
I'll PM �BER and ask if my 7stw can hang.......
Otherwise I am trading them all.
Posted By: 204farr Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/21/14
It's not everyday one post can flame up 5 forums. Didn't make it out of the gate on SH or LR got pulled on PM. I'll give you some more information on it but I need to do some more test loading. Right now we have been shooting 60-64 grains of retumbo with a 180 berger vld with speeds from 2800-3078. There seems to be an accuracy node around 2900 and 3050 with the few powders I have tried. Been shooting sub 3/8 moa at 200 yards. Spirit Ridge Rifle Golf season is set to open the 28th of this month which is the whole reason I designed this cartridge. That is based off the 300/7 Saum Norma brass with a 100 degree included angle. No turn tight neck (Norma brass). It has a fair amount of free bore. Designed to be ran in long or short action. The reason we were going for 0 -1200 yard accuracy without beating you to death. I was sick of shooting 338 edge lapuas and 300 ultra mag imps for 50 shots in a round of golf. It was designed to be long range hunter and rifle golf cartridge. I will get more information up here with proven load data out to 1200 yards in the next few weeks. The name came from me not from spirit ridge. I figured it should be named for their course since that's what it was designed for. Thanks, Cody
Posted By: safariman Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/23/14
I have never heard of rifle golf. But I am always interested in another shooting game or sport! Are you folks shooting at golf balls at various long distances a la the bowling pin shooting I tried my hand at a couple of years ago?

Please give us a bit more info on this game, and that does look like a fascinating cartridge that is very well thought out.

PS WELCOME TO 24HRCF! From one wildcatter and rifle nut to another.
Posted By: MissouriEd Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/23/14
Originally Posted by safariman
PS WELCOME TO 24HRCF! From one wildcatter and rifle nut to another.


So far in this thread you have been a Booking Agent, a Professional Hunter and now a Wildcatter. What have you wildcatted? What next?
Posted By: safariman Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/23/14
I was one of the first, I believe, to take a 204 and neck it up to .224 AFAIK, right when the 204 became available. No way to know if someone else did it at about the same time or not, but I was the first to post about such here, any way. My elk, bear, moose and African Plains Game rifle is chambered in my wildcat "340 Tyrannosaur" (8mm RemMag necked up to .338) for starters. I could go on.....

And I was an early advertiser here with my business, "Aahsome African Adventures" I took many folks from here hunting in Africa (I most often accompanied my clients on their hunts and assisted on those hunts in various ways). I had a banner ad up top here for about 5 years.

Here is a picture of me with one of my clients and a very nice Klipspringer he took:

[Linked Image]

My Client David Dirkes with his really good cape Buff:

[Linked Image]

I have many many more, but I think the point is well made. All of this was common knowledge here for a long time, but I guess it has been a while now since I was active iin this. I have a 28 minute DVD called "Hunting in Zimbabwe" that took me several years of safari's to make. It has two Elephant kills, two Cape Buff kills, a Lion Kill and lots of plains game going down on it. I am in it as an interviewer, shooter, voice over or cameraman throughout. Also have an article in African Hunter magazine. If you PM me your address, I will send you copy's of each. My business is noted and mentioned, with photos of some fine animals taken when this was a big part of how I made my living, are featured in the latest Barnes Reloading Manual, as well.

Below, my much hunted, very bloody, often loaned to clients 340 Tyrannosaur. I have posted it and info about this cartridge many, many times here.

[Linked Image]

Once again, I have had to post about me and my stuff, but only as a response by an ignorant newbie who, for some reason, doubted my experience. Members who have been around this forum a while know all of this stuff about me.

OP, I would REALLY rather this thread you started be about YOUR cartridge and rifle, but when challenged openly, I feel I must reply openly in return.

Can we all get back on track here, please? I am more than willing, but will reply with whatever proof is needed if again challenged about my background or experience by ignorant folks.
Posted By: 204farr Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/23/14

http://spiritridgeriflegolf.com/about/




Spirit Ridge Rifle GolfSpirit Ridge Rifle Golf was born in 2005 when we embarked on a mission to provide outdoorsmen with the most realistic, exhilarating and educational target shooting experience in the world. And we did it! Spirit Ridge Rifle Golf is the must-see, must-do shooting adventure for hunters and all outdoors enthusiasts!

For the Hunter
Rifle golf is a new sport designed to help you practice your skills and become a better shooter in a real-life environment as you move from target to target � using an ATV instead of a golf cart! Our unique golf-style scoring system makes the range more competitive and provides a fun way to assess your shooting skills. Offering ranges from 175 to 1200 yards, our course is designed to mimic real-life hunting experiences for riflemen of all abilities. Our special targets, complete with �vitals�, let you know when your shot is dead-on and provide an unrivaled sense of authenticity. With more than 30 targets all set at different angles, on different slopes and in varying wind conditions, you�ll really come to recognize your strengths and weaknesses as a shooter. Each of our four shooting stations provides unique challenges that will increase your experience and sharpen your abilities.

For the Novice
We�ll help you remove all doubts surrounding your ability; you�ll be able to understand and expand the limits of your skills. At Spirit Ridge, you�ll establish your own reference and confidence � then take it with you into the field where it really counts! We discourage taking long-range shots in the field without first proving yourself on the course. By reaching and pushing your limits at Spirit Ridge, you�ll develop increased accuracy and consistency, making you a more successful and more responsible hunter. Come enjoy an incredible day of fun while improving your skills. Put yourself and your rifle to the test!

Gun Golfis one of the fastest growing shooting sports in America. It contains all of the ingredients needed to inspire individuals to sharpen their shooting skills. Throw in the golf style scoring, now you and your buddies can compete for the weekly bragging rights. Gun Golf is a sport aimed at the individual who loves the outdoors, regardless if you are an avid hunter, weekend shooter or simply someone who likes to get out every once in a while to enjoy the outdoors in new and exciting ways. The game will inspire your love for the outdoors and make you a better marksmen along the way! Get ready to �Tee Off With A Bang




[Linked Image]
Posted By: MissouriEd Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/24/14
Originally Posted by safariman
Once again, I have had to post about me and my stuff, but only as a response by an ignorant newbie who, for some reason, doubted my experience.


Ya i am ignorant. Just ignorant enough for you to steal $295 from me and then you lie about it. Yes I doubt your experience as an ethical, moral and honest and truthful 24HCF member. Yes, known liars, thief's and scammers truly abound and are welcome at the 24HCF.

Thanks for showing the fine rifle.
Posted By: efw Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/24/14
Wow man that looks like an awful lotta fun!

I may have to make a trip to Utah!
Posted By: safariman Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/24/14
Originally Posted by efw
Wow man that looks like an awful lotta fun!

I may have to make a trip to Utah!


Agreed! What a terrific game and idea.
Originally Posted by safariman
I was one of the first, I believe, to take a 204 and neck it up to .224 AFAIK, right when the 204 became available. No way to know if someone else did it at about the same time or not, but I was the first to post about such here, any way. My elk, bear, moose and African Plains Game rifle is chambered in my wildcat "340 Tyrannosaur" (8mm RemMag necked up to .338) for starters. I could go on.....

And I was an early advertiser here with my business, "Aahsome African Adventures" I took many folks from here hunting in Africa (I most often accompanied my clients on their hunts and assisted on those hunts in various ways). I had a banner ad up top here for about 5 years.

Here is a picture of me with one of my clients and a very nice Klipspringer he took:

[Linked Image]

My Client David Dirkes with his really good cape Buff:

[Linked Image]

I have many many more, but I think the point is well made. All of this was common knowledge here for a long time, but I guess it has been a while now since I was active iin this. I have a 28 minute DVD called "Hunting in Zimbabwe" that took me several years of safari's to make. It has two Elephant kills, two Cape Buff kills, a Lion Kill and lots of plains game going down on it. I am in it as an interviewer, shooter, voice over or cameraman throughout. Also have an article in African Hunter magazine. If you PM me your address, I will send you copy's of each. My business is noted and mentioned, with photos of some fine animals taken when this was a big part of how I made my living, are featured in the latest Barnes Reloading Manual, as well.

Below, my much hunted, very bloody, often loaned to clients 340 Tyrannosaur. I have posted it and info about this cartridge many, many times here.

[Linked Image]

Once again, I have had to post about me and my stuff, but only as a response by an ignorant newbie who, for some reason, doubted my experience. Members who have been around this forum a while know all of this stuff about me.

OP, I would REALLY rather this thread you started be about YOUR cartridge and rifle, but when challenged openly, I feel I must reply openly in return.

Can we all get back on track here, please? I am more than willing, but will reply with whatever proof is needed if again challenged about my background or experience by ignorant folks.


While you�re busy changing the subject by self-aggrandizing, don�t forget to mention the safari you set up that got completely screwed over.
Posted By: smokepole Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/24/14
Hell, while you're at it, don't forget to mention that "this thread is not about me." LMFAO!!
Posted By: Kaleb Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/24/14
Originally Posted by smokepole
Hell, while you're at it, don't forget to mention that "this thread is not about me." LMFAO!!


Lol. Well said
Posted By: safariman Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/24/14
I was only defending myself about a low blow from a person who was himself taking the topic off center. I wish it had not happened, but it did - again- and I did not start it.

Why can't everyone just let the thread be about the rifle and cartridge? I complimented the guy on his round, gave it kudo's vs the pipsqueak rounds that I personally do not care for, and then it all came to be about me instead of the rifle and cartridge, and this NOT of my doing. But, I am not going to sit and take pot shots that are wrong about me without a reply of the truth and a correction.
Posted By: Pahntr760 Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/24/14
If you felt the need to 'defend yourself', thats what Private Messages are for. You did want to make it about you, nothing less. You have too much fun tooting your own horn.
Posted By: smokepole Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/24/14
Originally Posted by safariman
I complimented the guy on his round, gave it kudo's vs the pipsqueak rounds that I personally do not care for......


Two of which are right there with it.....which speaks to your awesome and superior knowledge of these things.......

And while we're on that subject, what does the fact that you were a middle man, booking hunts for people in Africa have to do with any of this? What does "Aahsome" mean?
Posted By: 300MAG Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/24/14
What does "Aahsome" mean?

It means you got a free fanny pack & a picture of Craig Boddington after you booked a hunt through him!!!
Posted By: smokepole Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/24/14
I was thinking it was an invention, designed to come up first alphabetically.
Posted By: 358winner Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/25/14
Interesting thread.
Posted By: wageslave Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/25/14
I played golf once.
A thousand yards takes a big wood.....

�BER Wood.
Originally Posted by 204farr

http://spiritridgeriflegolf.com/about/




Spirit Ridge Rifle GolfSpirit Ridge Rifle Golf was born in 2005 when we embarked on a mission to provide outdoorsmen with the most realistic, exhilarating and educational target shooting experience in the world. And we did it! Spirit Ridge Rifle Golf is the must-see, must-do shooting adventure for hunters and all outdoors enthusiasts!

For the Hunter
Rifle golf is a new sport designed to help you practice your skills and become a better shooter in a real-life environment as you move from target to target � using an ATV instead of a golf cart! Our unique golf-style scoring system makes the range more competitive and provides a fun way to assess your shooting skills. Offering ranges from 175 to 1200 yards, our course is designed to mimic real-life hunting experiences for riflemen of all abilities. Our special targets, complete with �vitals�, let you know when your shot is dead-on and provide an unrivaled sense of authenticity. With more than 30 targets all set at different angles, on different slopes and in varying wind conditions, you�ll really come to recognize your strengths and weaknesses as a shooter. Each of our four shooting stations provides unique challenges that will increase your experience and sharpen your abilities.

For the Novice
We�ll help you remove all doubts surrounding your ability; you�ll be able to understand and expand the limits of your skills. At Spirit Ridge, you�ll establish your own reference and confidence � then take it with you into the field where it really counts! We discourage taking long-range shots in the field without first proving yourself on the course. By reaching and pushing your limits at Spirit Ridge, you�ll develop increased accuracy and consistency, making you a more successful and more responsible hunter. Come enjoy an incredible day of fun while improving your skills. Put yourself and your rifle to the test!

Gun Golfis one of the fastest growing shooting sports in America. It contains all of the ingredients needed to inspire individuals to sharpen their shooting skills. Throw in the golf style scoring, now you and your buddies can compete for the weekly bragging rights. Gun Golf is a sport aimed at the individual who loves the outdoors, regardless if you are an avid hunter, weekend shooter or simply someone who likes to get out every once in a while to enjoy the outdoors in new and exciting ways. The game will inspire your love for the outdoors and make you a better marksmen along the way! Get ready to �Tee Off With A Bang




[Linked Image]


How much does it cost?
Season Pass $$$?

How many rounds is the course of fire?
Posted By: 358winner Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/25/14
Can we rename it to Poodle Pasture Pool.
Posted By: safariman Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/25/14
Originally Posted by 358winner
Can we rename it to Poodle Pasture Pool.


I like that one! If the club in Utah doesn't claim it, there should be a new game made up for it!

I hate golf.
Posted By: 204farr Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/25/14
50 bucks for a round of golf
50 buck a year for driving range 0-1200 for load work
Season Pass $$$?(was like 400 buck a few years back )

How many rounds are in a course of fire in a round of golf?

Wish I lived close by.
Posted By: 358winner Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/25/14
Let me guess: 18 golf balls at 100-900 yds and 4 shots per ball.
You didn't watch the video!
Posted By: 358winner Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/26/14
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
You didn't watch the video!


Sorry but iPad don't have a video. Will try to look when I get to a box.
Posted By: BWalker Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/26/14
Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Originally Posted by safariman

I will finish by saying that when I queried the guides and outfitters I booked for in MT, Colorado and Alaska as wel as Zimbabwe a few years ago which cartridge they thought was the best overall for big game in thier area's (admittedly a small sample of only a dozen fellows, but with much guiding and hunting experience each) the highest vote getter was the 340WBY and not the 7/08 or a 6.5 anything.







BS.

Outfitters mostly shudder when a "dude" shows up with a Weatherby anything.
The guide on my first elk hunt asked what I was shooting and I said 300 Ultra.. He kinda went quiet, then asked how much game I had shot with it. He never truly warmed up until I used it to tip over bull.
Originally Posted by 358winner
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
You didn't watch the video!


Sorry but iPad don't have a video. Will try to look when I get to a box.


They are steel targets from what I saw in the video.
Posted By: 204farr Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/28/14
update on 7mm Rifle Golf
we had the 180 up to 3150

I think we have the load for the Top-Gun Tournament

under 1/2 MOA @ 200 yards
180 ber vld hunting .659 G1 BC
3050 FPS

subsonic at 2220 yards with 79.3 MOA 521 ft-lbs

2003 yards target at the farm 64.4 MOA with 618 ft-lbs

1760 yards 1 mile target 50.5 MOA with 767 ft-lbs

1500 yards target 37.9 MOA with 986 ft-lbs (deer cut off In a book )

1290 yards 29.3 MOA with 1209 ft-lbs (elk cut off in same book)


1000 yards 19.2 MOA 1563 ft-lbs (under 20 MOA big ++++ for long range hunting)
Posted By: 204farr Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/28/14
Lights out bang Flop
250 yards with 7mm hadly 140gr vld at 3178 fps
2 weeks ago


[Linked Image]
Posted By: Pat85 Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/28/14
Originally Posted by BWalker

Outfitters mostly shudder when a "dude" shows up with a Weatherby anything.
The guide on my first elk hunt asked what I was shooting and I said 300 Ultra.. He kinda went quiet, then asked how much game I had shot with it. He never truly warmed up until I used it to tip over bull.


The outfitter I hunt with themselfs, carry 300 ultras and prefer to see big .30s
Posted By: safariman Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/28/14
Originally Posted by 204farr
Lights out bang Flop
250 yards with 7mm hadly 140gr vld at 3178 fps
2 weeks ago


[Linked Image]


Nice looking bear, there! He will make a dandy rug, as well as chops and roasts etc! We (sadly) finished up our bear back strap steaks last week. But bear season is only 2 months away here so there is hope in Safariland, plus still some bear sausage and such.

Is that a Utah Bear?
Posted By: gitem_12 Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/28/14
Originally Posted by safariman
I was one of the first, I believe, to take a 204 and neck it up to .224 AFAIK, right when the 204 became available.

so you took a 222 rem mag case that was necked down to .204, and necked it back up to .224? Thats absolutely [bleep] breathtaking


Once again, I have had to post about me

because you are a narcissist, and you need to show everyone how special and superior you're perceived accomplishments are in comparison to everyone else...you're UBER special

OP, I would REALLY rather this thread you started be about YOUR cartridge and rifle

then just STFU, and it will be


Posted By: Bluedreaux Re: new Cat 7mm Rifle Golf - 06/28/14
Safariman is the gift that just keeps on giving.

Originally Posted by safariman
Serious round in a serious looking rifle. I am so sick of puny little cartridges (7/08, 6.5 Creedmore, 7SAUM or WSM) for builds this one is a breath of fresh air here. High BC bullet AND some real CC's or cubic inches of horsepower to push it along.


Originally Posted by safariman
I complimented the guy on his round, gave it kudo's vs the pipsqueak rounds that I personally do not care for


Originally Posted by 204farr
is based off the 300/7 Saum Norma brass with a 100 degree included angle................ I was sick of shooting 338 edge lapuas and 300 ultra mag imps


Just in case there's any confusion, here's a pic to clear things up (the difference is obvious huh?)
From left to right: Maybe Uber--DEFINITELY UBER--puny&pipsqueak
7mm Hadly 7mm Rifle Golf 7Saum
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