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Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. rte #19342054 03/29/24
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Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. Crash_Pad #19342206 03/29/24
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CashisKing Campfire Ranger C Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 21,743 Anywhere people are Less Stupi...	Originally Posted by Crash_Pad The Environmental Disaster here is very concerning, the most concerning. At least the air pollution is abated temporarily. Imagine the state of the disturbed seabed at this moment? We must be very careful. Get this right! The seabed in Baltimore is about 2' or mercury, 3' of lead and 10' of arsenic. Need proof? Just look at... or speak to your average Baltimore resident... If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. Swamplord #19342209 03/29/24
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CashisKing Campfire Ranger C Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 21,743 Anywhere people are Less Stupi...	Originally Posted by Swamplord BINGO... Thanks for posting that... If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. Teal #19342217 03/29/24
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CashisKing Campfire Ranger C Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 21,743 Anywhere people are Less Stupi...	Originally Posted by Teal TEU wise - when built, the ships were about 1/3 the size of the Dali. BUT that port handles more than just container ships. Per this - don't know how accurate, average ship tonnage in 1970 was a hair over 200k Tonnage. I worked at the Fort McHenry decades ago... watched like 4,000 cars come out of one ship... Hyundais maybe... I forget. If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. CashisKing #19342222 03/29/24
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Teal Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 39,004 Flyover Country	Originally Posted by CashisKing Originally Posted by Teal TEU wise - when built, the ships were about 1/3 the size of the Dali. BUT that port handles more than just container ships. Per this - don't know how accurate, average ship tonnage in 1970 was a hair over 200k Tonnage. I worked at the Fort McHenry decades ago... watched like 4,000 cars come out of one ship... Hyundais maybe... I forget. The RO-RO freight at Baltimore will be the hardest to divert. Not a lot of other ports with the knowledge/facilities to do so. Me

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Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. Teal #19342243 03/29/24
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CashisKing Campfire Ranger C Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 21,743 Anywhere people are Less Stupi...	Originally Posted by Teal The RO-RO freight at Baltimore will be the hardest to divert. Not a lot of other ports with the knowledge/facilities to do so. I have no personal knowledge of RO-RO freight, but I will concur with you... because you do. There will impacts. Wilkshunter referenced cement (I think)... that will be another big hit. Who knows what else. If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. rte #19342476 03/29/24
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Magnum_Bob Campfire Outfitter M Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 8,883	Lotta pts to ponder..but never forget China is at war with the rest of the world and they have Joe biden in their pocket. The very same people who dumped on purpose C-19 on the world. They will do whatever they think they can get away with to further their goals. Killing a few hundred or a thousand people by collapsing a bridge isn't one of them but destroying critical infrastructure might be. Personally I'll be hard pressed to think they aren't involved somehow. Argue all you like because I don't care what you keyboard experts think. Oh and happy easter..mb " Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. Magnum_Bob #19342508 03/29/24
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Crash_Pad Campfire Regular C Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 1,374	Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob Lotta pts to ponder..but never forget China is at war with the rest of the world and they have Joe biden in their pocket. The very same people who dumped on purpose C-19 on the world. They will do whatever they think they can get away with to further their goals. Killing a few hundred or a thousand people by collapsing a bridge isn't one of them but destroying critical infrastructure might be. Personally I'll be hard pressed to think they aren't involved somehow. Argue all you like because I don't care what you keyboard experts think. Oh and happy easter..mb That’s a Bridge too Far. (East)

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. rte #19342535 03/29/24
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Jim1611 Campfire Tracker J Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 4,576	I was having a conversation with a friend of mine yesterday and he was telling me about the ship he was stationed on almost running into the Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor. He said they were going in reverse at about 15 knots and lost power. Had it not been for 2 tugs they'd have ran right over it. He called it dirty fuel and said it happened more than once. Ship lost power long enough to really put them in a bad situation.

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. AKwolverine #19342580 03/29/24
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rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas	Originally Posted by AKwolverine Originally Posted by rainshot The pilot was Ukrainian. The pilot was a Port of Baltimore guy. Not Ukrainian. https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/...e-ship-pilot-LKDWFY237JFR5NCR7KXZIWRDVA/ Well those Baltimore leftard communists hate capitalism anyway. Was he high on cocaine? Dog I rescued in January

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Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. MarineHawk #19342602 03/29/24
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rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas	Originally Posted by MarineHawk Originally Posted by kolofardos This seems odd: https://twitter.com/liz_churchill10/status/1773409969192235189 I think some of the data recording stopped while the power was out. Funny post. Dog I rescued in January

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. Teal #19342604 03/29/24
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rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas	Originally Posted by Teal Originally Posted by MarineHawk Originally Posted by Teal As said before - power comes back on, the ship's hard turn is actually prop walk due to it being single screw. Full astern will cause the stern to swing to port, essentially lining the ship/effectively bow to starboard. It's a physics thing. Your theory makes sense, Teal. But are you not believing the reports that the propulsion never came back on, and the black smoke was from the backup generator? This engineer HERE has said that the smoke isn't diesel generator out the stack but main propulsion as fuel pressure comes up. Far too much smoke for even a big diesel generator. Dog I rescued in January

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. troublesome82 #19342611 03/29/24
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rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas	Originally Posted by troublesome82 Originally Posted by gunchamp Wonder what changes will be made so something like this wont happen again The GOV will take over all shipping operations , country wide, forthwith! Problem solved! No they will let China handle it. Dog I rescued in January

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. rickt300 #19342624 03/29/24
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smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,030 Colorado	Originally Posted by rickt300 Originally Posted by troublesome82 Originally Posted by gunchamp Wonder what changes will be made so something like this wont happen again The GOV will take over all shipping operations , country wide, forthwith! Problem solved! No they will let China handle it. There's an Army Corps of Engineers district office right there in Baltimore, and anther one in Philly. They do a lot of dredging and harbor maintenance construction contracts, and well as civil and vertical construction. They'll get emergency funds and get the contractors onboard quickly. WHoever has those contracts will do well, just like hurricane cleanups. ETA, I'm talking the cleanup and getting the harbor re-opened, re-building the bridge will take some time. A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. rte #19343122 03/29/24
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simonkenton7 Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 14,197 Marshall NC	The eight construction workers were on break when the bridge collapsed. They were all sitting in their cars. The two bodies they recovered were in a car.

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. rte #19343133 03/29/24
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Valsdad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 45,115 North East Urth	Make of this what you will. Interesting in that he makes note at about the 22:30 mark that there's a channel coming in from the left, pointing directly at the stern of the vessel, with an outgoing tide running. Hmmmm? Last edited by Valsdad; 03/29/24. The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni) member of the cabal of dysfunctional squirrels?

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. Jim1611 #19343146 03/29/24
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antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 30,959 Colorado	Originally Posted by Jim1611 I was having a conversation with a friend of mine yesterday and he was telling me about the ship he was stationed on almost running into the Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor. He said they were going in reverse at about 15 knots and lost power. Had it not been for 2 tugs they'd have ran right over it. He called it dirty fuel and said it happened more than once. Ship lost power long enough to really put them in a bad situation. Navel History is full of ships running over each other, hitting piers, running ashore, etc. It's amazing how much time major vessels spent in repair over such events. You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it. You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. rte #19343161 03/29/24
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Sharpsman Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 14,702 Northeast Louisiana	A ssholes are always trying to capitalize on someone's problem and don't mind putting out bullshit to boost it up!! Bastards oughta be gored with a hollow horn!! Last edited by Sharpsman; 03/29/24. Even birds know not to land downwind!

Re: Bridge Collapse Was A Cyber Attack On Critical Infrastructure Corridor. antelope_sniper #19343188 03/29/24
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Jcubed Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 9,466	Originally Posted by antelope_sniper Originally Posted by Jim1611 I was having a conversation with a friend of mine yesterday and he was telling me about the ship he was stationed on almost running into the Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor. He said they were going in reverse at about 15 knots and lost power. Had it not been for 2 tugs they'd have ran right over it. He called it dirty fuel and said it happened more than once. Ship lost power long enough to really put them in a bad situation. Navel History is full of ships running over each other, hitting piers, running ashore, etc. It's amazing how much time major vessels spent in repair over such events.

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