Since the OP's question has been asked and answered, I'll reply to Joe's off the road-into-the-weeds question. The Remington 8/81 was a pretty ingenious gun, but had crummy balance IMO, and delivered weird recoil impulses when fired. I still like Loggah's comment from years ago when he likened it to "shooting a pogo stick". My buddy has an 8 in .32 Remington which is even more muzzle heavy than the 81, and I had an 81 in .300 a few years ago which I bought because it was cheap and sold because I just didn't care for it. It was accurate though.

The .300 is a great cartridge but I feel it shines only in short length bolt guns and Savages. I could never understand why a full length bolt gun or autoloader action would be chambered for a short cartridge.


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