Originally Posted by HitnRun
Originally Posted by gunner500
45-70 all day everyday, brass, bullets, and available bullet weights trump all, plus, it had cool military and buffalo slaying history and to go with it.


The 444 was introduced when the 45-70 had nearly disappeared from the shooting market back on the 1960's. It's factory load with a 265 grain bullet is a weak proposition when compared to the current 45-70 offerings.

The 444 has ample power that a 44 magnum can't provide and is not as heavy in the recoil department as the 45-70, but it just doesn't have all the commercially loaded options, much less the "cool" factor that the 45-70 has.

Get a 45-70 and you won't be disappointed.


Agreed, I had a 45-70 marlin Cowboy and shot 525 gr piledrivers to 1745 fps with a healthy charge of RL-7, even with my old original'86 made in year 1893 I shoot a 500 gr flat nosed grease groove bullet over black powder for a velocity of 1245 fps, I love heavy bullets in all calibers.

And yes, the shooter does his or her part, the 45-70 will never disappoint.


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