Pappy348 - "I'm seldom, if ever see anything new on the shelves... Local outlets i.e. gun-shops, Wallyworld and the like, stock what their records show SELLS best i.e. .308/.30-06. 22LR and so on. Had to look really hard to find one that had 5 boxes of .338 Federal on the shelf. This is a LGS that stocks .470NE and assorted other exotica. "Tupperware rifles and ARs get the most play..." True again, at least for now. Have plenty of .308 brass I can turn into .243W and .338F (fills a niche) if necessary. However, .338F factory ammo and head-stamped brass, are nice to have around too. Homessteader