The M-1951 pants are 17 oz. whipcord and are the same weight as the discontinued Filson pants. They are cut weird to me, think 1950 Abbot and Costello high waist, and I had a tailor lower the waist to a more modern style. They are bullet proof and quite warm without a lot of bulk.
When I'm in the woods and it's brutally cold I want the high waist. Especially if I'm sitting on the ground as is often the case. I tried bibs for this very reason by never did like the way they felt.
I still can't get over the $20.00 cost for pants that will outlast the wearer. With several pairs there's no need to worry about wearing yesterday's wet wool pants.
I'm glad I started this thread. So much good info.
