went to cabelas the tuther day to pick up some scope rings. Wandered over to the camping department to check out the goodies and seen a helinox chair. The little short one is kinda low and hard to get into and out of, but the chair one model is like Goldilock's bed. It is 'juuuust riiight'.... I used it tonight to watch some antelope in the wheatfield and the height is great for using a spotter on my slik mini tripod. No need to take the big one. The seat is also low enough to use your knees to support both elbows for a shot from my shooting sticks. They are kinda pricey for what they are, but I had enough points built that it didn't cost me anything. I like this thing so much I'm going to take it elk hunting. Lounging/cooking/eating in the tipi just got luxurious. No more sitting my old, wrinkly white azz on the floor. And it'll be great to keep the very same afforementioned azz up outta the mud and snow. I'll gladly take the one pound hit in my pack.......