Thanks again,

yeah, i'm a ballistic tip fan, been shooting it out of my 270 for 15 years now and been developing loads for my new 708 with it. I'm a shoulder shooter so I rarely if ever have to track one. From what I've researched if your a shoulder guy, the ab and the barnes are the best bet at the speeds of a 257. There is guy who posts on our Georgia forum that he's seen ballistics and partitions literally fall apart on a shoulder, and he shoots strictly the ttsx now. I'll pickup some h1000 this weekend.

kman, I've got a cocentricity gauge coming. To be honest, I've never thought I really needed one for hunting loads, but I guess its a small investment to see if its me causing the issue when sizing and seating, etc. If anything, I'll be able to identify the off rounds and set them to the side for foulers or whatever.