My brother bought a B prefix 45-3 1/4" with 34" HB and shotgun butt. got into it right at about 65% retail and never fired. I picked up some brass at Denver last year, Only took 6 rds to come up with a load 114 gr Fg Goex, card wad, lube wad, card wad and a 566 gr 45TGBS ppb at 1 in 16 alloy it shot well. Not something a guy would start a girl on or any woman you liked but hell it wasn't as bad as my 50 -3 1/4". He has other Shiloh's for everyday shooting. You guys need to try some of this stuff before you pass on someone elses badmouthing. MB


" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "