There is no denying the effectiveness of the 30-30. I have several including 336As with the 24 inch barrels. Like Shawlerbrook said, if need were our motive, we would not look beyond the 30-30 for most applications. Something different ? - well, that has little to do with need. And, if need were our purpose, we would probably have two rifles and a shotgun. LOL
T.S.
