Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
Not everyone juices for max gains. On top of that I know of a bunch of scrawny guys that get into lifting and put on gains that would make you think they juiced, but have not.


Sure, but I'll go back to natural guys do not get freaky vascularity, they don't get "moon face" from water retention etc. etc.

As JG said, Canseco named names and was proven right.


Now, back to HOF.

I'm glad Jack Morris made it, even though he didn't have 300 wins.


Sure guys get vascular naturally too. No Baseball Player was ever Lee Haney Vascular freaky. In the end you have to see the ball and have the right swing and timing. No juice is going to give that to you. Now HGH can and will improve sight.


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