Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by Cloudrnnr
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s a great rifle. I hate the magazine. I now know I hate ANY kind of detachable magazine on a bolt gun.


That's why I've stuck with the regular 1500/Vanguard!


Yeah, but the 1500 is a pig. It is like the heaviest bolt action ever made.



I used to think that--until I started actually comparing weights on like rifles. Model 70, Ruger M77 variants and Sakos (at least the older ones the Howa action is patterened after) are all just as heavy or heavier.