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Adamjp - " I think the point that Zeissman is trying to get across is that NZ has been, and will continue to be a relatively safe place where there is no need to go about armed or to hold a gun for protection against an undefined threat.

One reason for this is the lack of guns in the general population when compared to America.

50 people killed in NZ is a terrible thing to happen. The last one was 1990, then 2019 - 29 years between mass shooting events.

50 people killed is a fraction of the gun deaths in the US each year where 29 months between mass shooting events is unlikely. ..."


How"clever" of you and Zeissman to [u]not[/u] use populations of the two countries to make your assumptions. New Zeeland has +/- 4,900,000 people living there: the United States has +/- 310,000,000 people, NOT including +/- 20,000,000 illegal aliens. It can only stand to logical reason that the United States will have more violent crime, often committed by criminals with guns, than New Zeeland.

But, on a per capita basis, what percentage of NZ residents own firearms? As many per capita as the citizens of the United States?? That would be an interesting figure to consider in your absurd assumption that NZ has little violent crime compared to the U.S., because you have such strict restrictions on firearms. I can assure you that -- although it'll never happen -- if NZ had 310,000,000 citizens plus 20,000,000 illegal aliens of all races, cultures, religions and non-religions, you'd have the same rates of violent crime we have here in the U.S.

Gun control only disarms the honest people. Criminals do not bother to obey the anti-firearms laws and it is absolute nonsense to think they do. Liberals are unable to understand this axiomatic fact.

If you're going to debate, try to debate logically.

L.W.


"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." (William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830s.)