I changed to barnes X many years ago and have never recovered one after taking 40-50 deer with them. This past year I too, 2 deer in WV with a 7x57AI with 120 gr TTSX and 1 with a 257AI with 100 gr TTSX. Took 2 in NC with 257AI with 80 gr TTSX. Working on a 9.3x62 with 250 gr TSX now for next season to try.