So I now use the Kifaru gun bearer upper on my packs and the Kuiu quick draw lower. The Kuiu lower attached to the belt on each side instead of just in the middle, this makes it do a MUCH better job at keeping the rifle from twisting than the Kifaru lower design. Still works just the same, I don't have to manipulate the buckle to get my stock in and out though if you have a bigger stock you may have to do so.

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