Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by JoeBob
I looked that up and I’m struggling to see the appeal here in America. The .22 shoots a 36 grain bullet (not a diablo pellet but what looks like a standard lead .22 bullet except for the boattail and hollow base) at over 1000 feet per second.

That’s really cool, but that is squarely in .22 rimfire territory with all the advantages and disadvantages that offers. For instance, I could legally shoot a .22 rimfire in my backyard but I never would because of safety. But I have no issues shooting a pretty high powered springer because I know that diablo pellets lose steam fast. This gun would be like shooting a .22.

And I guess my next point is since we live in America and there are few restrictions on shooting .22s, why deal with the added weight, complexity, and expense of that air rifle when .22 rimfire performance is desired?

But I do agree that from an engineering standpoint and cool factor, it seems great.



That's considered an "Adult Air Rifle".

Frankly, I wouldn't own an airgun I couldn't kill stuff with.

My .25 Marauder takes the place of a .22 around here quite a bit.

You have to shoot an adult air rifle as you would a powder burner with that same ballistics. I have a .357 airgun that you treat and shoot like a 38 spl handgun. You don't treat them or shoot them as you would a Red Ryder.

In today's market of adult air rifles, the powerful repeaters are king.


Thanks for repeating my point. I don’t want an air rifle that is as powerful as a powder burner. I want a 900 FPS .177 that I can shoot safely in my backyard and kill birds and squirrels with. If I want more than that, I’ll get a .22 rimfire.