they are great binoculars however the ones I see listed for sale are for over $400 bucks. IMO that is not worth it and not worth it by a lot. The problem is break an eyecup or mangle the focus wheel, who is going to fix them? I have no idea how pentax deals with this since they left the sport optics business essentially. They were a great value when new and when pentax was still selling them I think I paid about $450 for mine back nearly 15 years ago. For $400 I save my money an pick up some meopta meostars from doug, albeit at a bit high cost. I personally would not pay more than about $150 for a pair of these, knowing I am my own warranty station.