8133 gives you a great case fill, it is just a little slower, but very temp stable and clean burning for sure ! Great powder !!
Not liking it , way too compressed for my taste 63gr. w/a 180 ELD-M has me thinking i'm going to destroy a case .
Hodgdon online data 65.5gr. for a 175gr. bullet -max load .
64.5gr, is above bottom of the case neck in new nosler brass - no way am I going to try to squash powder down that far . The bullets came off the redding seater like a case that didn't have enough lube that's the 63gr. load - can't be good .