HOWA Vanguard?

Was it a Howa, or a Weatherby? I've had a couple of both, and the Weatherbys seem a touch more refined, but nothing major except that the Weatherby tupperware stocks are better than the lumpy Hogues on the ones LSI sells here. Haven't seen a lammy version of either except the one I put a Boyds stock on. Currently, I have two, a Mini and an Alpine. Really like the forged-steel actions with one piece bolts and simple bolt takedown, but they are a bit heavy unless you can find a discontinued Alpine with its Bansner stock, light barrel, and slightly trimmed action. Mine goes 7 pounds 4.1 oz with a one pound scope in Talley LWs, 3/4 pound more than my Fieldcraft (but $1200 cheaper).

All good rifles. I keep finding bargain ones, which has so far prevented me from dipping my toe in the new econo-rifle market.


What fresh Hell is this?