Totally agree with the heart or double lung them statement. Our camp has lost so many through the years because the hunters insist on shoulder shooting them. And that's with 270's, 308's, 30-06's, and 7mm mags too. One year long ago a guy from my Camp had an adult Bear cross the very log he was sitting on and he shot it in the shoulder with his 30-30. We had blood for a long ways but never recovered that Bear.
