WTO is saying 2850fps-2900fps out of a 26" barrel with 162's for the SAW. Alpha brass is available through WTO so no forming. Fairly similar velocity to the .284 Win. With a .135 shorter case to better fit SA mag boxes with the long and slickeries.
Loving my little 7-08AI Montana, and will stick with that route or saami again since I already have dies for both.
