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BTW. My hands down favorite book is the Bill Tarrent book on Delmar Smith. Worst book for me was Wolter's book, Gun Dog. I read that the problem with it was Wolter's is a retriever man that bought a setter to train just so he could write a book. I have read a lot of good about his Water Dog book. Perfection Kennels has a DVD out that is a very nice DVD if your interested in a DVD.