Yup, that is what several pilots have said...
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Anonymous said...
ASN contains METAR info showing winds from 300 at 21 gusting to 27, and says the aircraft landed on runway 13. It's very curious that a professional crew would land downwind in such a situation.
https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20191017-0Date: Thursday 17 October 2019
Time: 17:40
A Saab 2000, registered N686PA, was substantially damaged when it experienced a runway excursion after landing on runway 13 at Unalaska Airport, Alaska.
01:56 UTC / 17:56 local time:
PADU 180156Z 30021G27KT 5SM -RA BKN039 06/02 A2953 RMK AO2 PK WND 30027/0154 RAB41 SLP004 P0002 T00560017
Friday, October 18, 2019 at 11:36:00 AM EDT
Anonymous said...
Looks like three of the six prop blades on the left engine hit the rocks, broke off, and at least one penetrated the fuselage. Specifically right at the fifth window behind the entry door of the left side of the fuselage behind the entry door. It aligns with the prop arc. Tragic accident. I've never been comfortable as a passenger sitting in alignment to a spinning blade, either prop or the front blade of a fanjet.
Friday, October 18, 2019 at 8:19:00 PM EDT
Unknown said...
"It's very curious that a professional crew would land downwind in such a situation." They were probably on the RNAV to 13 because it's almost straight in and easier, but it's a circling approach and either runway would have been OK (assuming the METAR was correct). Definitely curious.
That plane needs 4100 feet on a normal standard day to land. Max tailwind component for the Saab 340 is 10kts and Id assume the 2000 is the same so they definitely should've tried a visual to 31 or the alt since they had 5 miles of vis, 4000 BKN and a 4500 ft runway. Someone is in trouble for sure. Ive never landed there, unsure about the terrain or anything else, but I can see that 27kts of tailwind probably wouldn't work even if he had a drag chute! Everyone screws up eventually. Wish the best for all.
Saturday, October 19, 2019 at 1:47:00 PM EDT
BD said...
Notice the king air landing on the opposite runway?
Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 11:37:00 AM EDT
marccpl said...
Wow... especially for a Part 121/135....
"You can always go around..."
Monday, October 21, 2019 at 12:04:00 PM EDT
Anonymous said...
Eye witness:
"We watched one [landing] attempt, and it was going with the wind, [approaching] from the Hog Island side," said Reinders. "Then it went back up [for] a second attempt. It went with the wind again. It did land, so all the wheels were on the ground. And then it wasn't stopping. It was slowing down, and it was apparent that it was slowing down, but it wasn't stopping."
For me it is a criminal act to intentionally land a Saab 2000 on a short runway with this tailwind.
Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 5:45:00 AM EDT
Anonymous said...
So much for 121 running the landing data. The highest tailwind I have seen for 121 is 15 knots.
RIP to the passenger lost.
Friday, October 25, 2019 at 7:46:00 AM EDT
gretnabear said...
" With regard to shielding the fuselage, the FAA agrees with the Board's position that the extensive cabin shielding needed to protect persons from separated propellers would incur prohibitive weight penalties. Even if sufficient shielding could be provided, it would provide no protection from catastrophic structural failure due to the unbalance created by the remaining blades. Even though it would be technically feasible to prohibit the installation of seats from the areas likely to be damaged by a propeller separation for the smaller transport category airplanes currently in production and in service, there is no place to relocate the seats."
https://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.recsearch/Recommendation.aspx?Rec=A-87-001Friday, October 25, 2019 at 10:48:00 AM EDT
MarcPilot said...
- The part 135 learjet in Terrerboro flown by 2 hoodlooms with a vocabulary half filled with expletives unable to do a basic circling approach and destroying a multimillion $$$ machine and killing themselves.
- The bedford, MA crash that took the life of billionaire Lewis Katz flown by 2 complacent idiots who didn't do basic preflight checks on 98% of their takeoffs and didn't realize they had the gust locks engaged taking off until it was too late, and disconnected hydraulics (hint: They also control the reverse trusters!) to try to disengage it which was the absolutely idiotic thing to do.
- And it looks like here some very complacent pilot decided to to a 27 kn tailwind landing on a very short runway, because it would save them the trouble of an extra minute of circling it.
And I could go on...
No amount of regulations, failsafes and checkrides will fix stupid. And stupid means death in Aviation. This is why it is critical CFIs training a first student wean out the complacent and lazy ones, or those who are into it for the "prestige" and to "show off to friends", etc...
Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 11:00:00 AM EST
