the FDE PMR 30 is about $393 at Buds guns, the black is $354.00. I am not a keltec fan so it does not appeal to me much even at half the price. Keltec is a good innovator, always coming out with cool ideas, they execute them in a manner that seems to say "how inexpensively can I make this gun and have it function for x number of rounds". The "fluff and buff" crowd are kind of delusional, why should you have to fix something that came from the factory not 100% functional? ,