I have an ar in 458 socom and it's a fun little round. They usually come twisted better than 450s and there are some good bullets options. I already load for 45/70 so I have several 458 bullets to play with.

The socom in a 16" runs speeds up close to what I feel is my max comfort level in my 45/70 guide gun. The socom will push 300s to 2100 with a hot load. I need to get back to texas and use the socom on pigs.

Bb