Originally Posted by prm
The Meopta #4 is a nice reticle. Now if the scopes would have just stayed together...

The Vortex G4 BDC works well in the timber.

The Nightforce Forceplex isn’t terrible, but the main bars are a tad thinner than I’d prefer.

Designers are either focused on the range crowd, or they are going with illumination. I personally don’t want illumination. While I acknowledge it works, I simply prefer to not have any electronic items on my rifle. I also believe a good reticle design and passable glass obviates the need for illumination. By passable glass, I just mean VX2 or Burris FFII, or better, glass. It is not a great challenge to make a scope that enables aiming in dark timber, on an overcast morning/evening, +/-30 min of darkness.


Illumination works if it's low intensity...and I'm happy to use it....but I don't want to HAVE to use it. I'd rather the reticle be designed bold enough that I can bracket if needed. I hate to depend on anything electronic...it's a low battery away from useless.