Filaman,
Unfortunately, neither John or Bob is still with us. Both were born in 1928, but Bob passed away at 77 in 2005, and John in 2013, only a few days short of his 85th birthday.
I was privileged to know both men, though Bob far better than John. Got to hunt and shoot shotguns with Bob on several occasions, including my first wingshooting trip to Argentina in 1996. Only got to talk to John, both in person at several "industry" shows, and quite a few long phone conversations.
