Yes, if you are not used to this type reticle, it takes a bit to get used too. I, have two now on service rifles,(K-31 Swiss & M1a) like them for that purpose. Not what I would want on a hunting rig they are big and 23-26 oz? I, do not want the weight and clutter for a hunting rig.
Glass on par to better than the old 4200 elites, clicks adjustments as they should, eye relief ok for me.
I, do wonder why they are selling these at such a discount.
my < .02
