OK...I loaded up my .17 Rem with 20 gr. Vmax going slow at 3650 fps...killed 18 fox with last month in Texas...got ONE exit...soooo, fur friendly, and 18 DRTs...I'm sold....
You will note that is approximately what the .17 Hornet is doing....
This isn't all of them...but you get the picture...so to speak...